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      A Former User @Corngold
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      @Corngold when one goal is achieved another comes
      satisfaction is high vibration because it implies achievemenet and enjoyment
      contentment is low vibration because it implies no lust for life and coping . this is basically complacency.

      we basically agree just im being specific about the word satisfaction

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        Corngold @A Former User
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        @eduardo-crispino said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:

        contentment is low vibration because it implies no lust for life and coping . this is basically complacency.

        True. I think we agree but the words really are complex. "cope" is also basically like saying "battle."

        cope(v.)
        late 14c., coupen, "to quarrel;" c. 1400, "come to blows, deliver blows, engage in combat," from Old French couper, earlier colper "hit, punch," from colp "a blow" (see coup).

        Interesting that the "coping" pain is warring with the after effects of actual pain / hardship. Because technically the hardship comes during battle or regular living which is a battle.

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          evan.hinkle @Gardner
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          @Gardner well, I think there’s a narrative or belief that competitive sports do these things, but really in all but a handful of cases the bulk of competitive sporting leads to metabolic dysfunction. It’s over-exercise, coupled with under-nourishment or incorrect nourishment, typically wrapped in a mythos of sacrifice, (for the team, for the sport, for the coach, etc).

          Played for fun, maybe with friends, sure, I could see it being positive socially, but even then, running, depleting glycogen stores, illiciting cortisol response, upregulating lypolisis, hyperventilation. The negatives seem to vastly outweigh the positives, (of course this is just my experience/opinion). Done habitually, these conditions become chronic.

          Me personally, I’d say I encountered thyroid dysfunction, excessive cortisol, malnourishment, an unhealthy exercise habit, body dysmorphia, estrogen dominance, hair loss, brain injury, depression, drug dependence,IBS, etc, (general symptoms of low metabolism). I think my experience is not unique. It seems like most professional athletes suffer in the same ways, (whether it’s the weight gain of retired athletes, drug addiction, alcoholism, symptoms of serotonin overload - antisocial behavior, poor sleep/recovery). All just signs of poor metabolic function.

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            Corngold @evan.hinkle
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            @evan-hinkle worst I think is the moralism of exercise. Nobody enjoys it so how can it be good? It's militaristic, even though the military is fat and obese. Lol.

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              evan.hinkle
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              Now I should add, I don’t abstain from exercise, I’ve just had to re-wire my relationship to it. I took two separate giant periods of time off from all exercise totaling almost two years, (previously lifted while fasted at 5-6am) and would have cold temps the rest of the day, (which I thought was “good”). I took a year off and returned to over-exercising, (though greatly reduced the volume) and got the same cortisol and adrenaline responses.

              After some time I realized I was still having a stress response to it and took another year off. This time I looked at exercise differently. Exercise is not an opportunity to create a deficit, it’s a stress that needs to be accounted for. I no longer care about body composition, (I used to have 10ish percent body fat year round-incredibly well defined abs and large protruding veins in my musculature, including prominent abdominal veins). I’m now about 20% body fat year round and work to protect that “look.” The number of the scale seems irrelevant because lean mass weighs so much more than fat. I fit in my pants no matter the number on the scale, so I’m good with that. I lift weights three days a week using the 5-3-1 program and I do no auxiliary work. This means that I do no more than 9 sets a week. I don’t care about anything but maintaining lean muscle and maintaining/increasing strength. In “addition” I live closer to my life, (I chop firewood, garden, build furniture, work on my house). That seems like “safer” exercise.

              I drink 16oz of milk with glucose a half hour before I lift, sip 12oz of an electrolyte drink with added glucose during the workout, (except on deadlift or squat day-just makes my stomach feel too full given the movement) and post workout have another 16oz of milk with two tablespoons of honey. I stay warm and energized all day, and continue to get stronger.

              Is it a challenge to see this body in the mirror each day vs the one I had, yeah, I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t. But I think that a “ripped” body is a social construct that is pushed to make us weaker as men. I also think there’s a massive dose of self-worth psychological stuff in there too like seeking external validation from a “great body.” I didn’t know it at the time, but my self-worth was intimately connected to that external validation. I sleep well, I’m a better father and husband, I’m better at my job, and I feel good all day. It’s a hard lesson to unlearn: body composition is in no way related to health, (and of course that is an oversimplification, they are obviously related to a degree-at the extremes) but it has improved my life so greatly that when I see others making the same sacrifices I used to for “health” or “sport” I can’t help but feel for them, (cause I really understand).

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                lobotomize-me @evan.hinkle
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                @evan-hinkle I attempt to keep my glycogen stores topped up mid game by having my coach throw me sugar water whenever i feel like it . I hope that is enough

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                  evan.hinkle @lobotomize-me
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                  @lobotomize-me only you can ultimately know if it’s enough, but adrenaline can help smooth out the cortisol shakes in my experience, and in the heat of the “battle” it’s very difficult to accurately assess your wellbeing. This is just my experience personally. I’m sure there are athletes who can keep tabs on those signals, (I’m much better at responding to negative indicators now myself, but I also have 43 years of opportunity to do so).

                  I can’t imagine I would have known what adrenaline was when I was 16. I remember in fact in my first high school scrimmage, my first carry, (American football) I was injured terribly in my lower back on my right side. My hip felt like it had been dislocated or something, really just brutal pain. Of course I got back in the huddle, carried the ball again, and to my amazement, the pain disappeared! I now know that adrenaline kicked in and I could no longer feel the injury. In what I’m sure is a totally unrelated incident, I began to lose my hair at 16. Lol, we don’t know what we don’t know…

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                    Phoenix007
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                    Do you make it yourself your vitamin K with DMSO? If so, which vitamin K supplement do you use and what is the concentration of DMSO?

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                      lobotomize-me @Phoenix007
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                      @Phoenix007 Yes, I make my own (https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Vitamin-Complex-Menaquinone-Capsules-Availability/dp/B075TK5BK9), but this is my only cheap option in Germany, so there may be better alternatives in other countries. The DMSO is pharma grade and measured by drops. I don’t remember the exact math i did behind it, but I use 20 drops of pharma-grade DMSO and 1 drop of water (the water drop is larger and just enough to keep the solution from becoming too rigid)

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                        Phoenix007 @lobotomize-me
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                        @lobotomize-me you don't filter out the excipients in the supplement, right? They don't seem to bother?

                        Do you apply it topically on your face? I wonder if making a simple solution of DMSO and water and spraying it over the area before using Georgi's Kuinone would be a good idea to increase topical absorbtion

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                          lobotomize-me @Phoenix007
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                          @Phoenix007:

                          1. All fillers inside the capsule are insoluble in DMSO, so they won’t penetrate the skin barrier.

                          2. I recently stopped using topical vitamin K; I’ve forgotten the reasoning behind the decision

                          3. When I applied it to my face, it burned. I persisted a couple of times, but I can’t say it was worth it no benefit or harm beyond the discomfort.

                          4. Haiduts Kuinone is generally formulated with a “secret” solvent he claims is as effective as DMSO but less irritating. I’ve never tried his products, so I can’t confirm its composition, and I don’t believe you need to layer DMSO onto Kuinone to improve absorption.

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                            Phoenix007 @lobotomize-me
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                            @lobotomize-me Good to know the fillers are not carried in.

                            Do you have experience with topical applications of other substances? I wonder if it may not be worth to use some DMSO to increase the absorption of topical magnesium, just like Magnoil or maybe mixing in some Solban to make it more effective.

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                              lobotomize-me @Phoenix007
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                              @Phoenix007 DMSO is the only carrier I use for vitamin D besides MCT oil, so I can’t really compare it to other options. I also dissolve pregnenolone and DHEA in DMSO.

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