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    Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”

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      Hearthfire @LetTheRedeemed
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      So where do we buy it? I'm assuming it's not the same as D-Ribose that's on Amazon?

      Didn't Ray Peat say something about sugar might be beneficial topically for hair loss? I remember this being discussed recently, either here or about a thread that was on the old forum.

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        OliverCloasov @Hearthfire
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        @Hearthfire Yeah they're not the same and it takes a complex enzyme mediated reaction to convert D-ribose to deoxyribose from what I'm reading.
        I recall Dr. Peat mentioning sugar being good for hair, but I can't remember the context.
        I'm definitely interested in this development, I'll be looking into whether it's possible to buy it. So far I haven't found a source unfortunately

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          Sigma-Aldrich has it, about $100 per 5g though
          https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/aldrich/121649

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            OliverCloasov
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            Cheaper here https://www.caymanchem.com/product/29072/2-deoxy-d-ribose

            Interesting snippet from their description:
            "Topical administration of 2-deoxy-D-ribose increases blood vessel formation and accelerates wound healing in a rat full-thickness cutaneous wound model."

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              AinmBeo @OliverCloasov
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              @OliverCloasov Yes, but they won't let you order unless you are a business or lab.

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                OliverCloasov @AinmBeo
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                @AinmBeo Ah you're right, unfortunate

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                  LetTheRedeemed @Hearthfire
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                  @Hearthfire yeah d-ribose is different. I know, I forget what context he said that about, too - like topical or just higher consumption.

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                    LetTheRedeemed @OliverCloasov
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                    @OliverCloasov @AinmBeo @Hearthfire
                    I'm open to a group buy if anyone of us can find a supplier to private individuals.

                    or, what if we all beseeched Georgi to make an experimental cosmetic in a one off batch and we be his guinea pigs? 😄

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                      A Former User @OliverCloasov
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                      @OliverCloasov it increases NO so according to danny roddy it is le bad

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                        OliverCloasov @LetTheRedeemed
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                        @LetTheRedeemed I'm open to it

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                          OliverCloasov @Guest
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                          @sneedful Interesting, did he elaborate on the mechanism and the degree?

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                            zorba990 @LetTheRedeemed
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                            @LetTheRedeemed Wonder what would happen if I bubble hydrogen through ribose infused water?

                            Found this on Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/RPI-2-Deoxy-D-Ribose-500-Grams/dp/B01N0X8O06

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                              LetTheRedeemed @Guest
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                              @sneedful dangit. in that case it could be working on hair growth thru the estrogen function: increase water retention, ie bloodflow

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                                LetTheRedeemed
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                                Anybody recall Peat's quote on sugar helping hair growth? was he talking topical? I wonder what topical glucose + ATP + Progest E might do.

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                                  This is so simple I could believe in it.

                                  Thanks for sharing it.

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                                    Hearthfire @LetTheRedeemed
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                                    I found this thread talking about it, from a podcast/conversation with Ray Peat and Danny Roddy titled
                                    "Lost Conversations with Ray Peat #1: The Purpose of Hair, Luciferianism, and Obama as a CIA Creation​

                                    https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/did-ray-peat-just-recommended-topical-honey-for-hair.50151/

                                    Looks like that episode has been nuked off the internet by the censors. Probably for that title and the discussion content.

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                                      LetTheRedeemed @Hearthfire
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                                      @Hearthfire brooo you came thru king.

                                      I'm thinking a topical spray of glucose + a pro-energy substance like t3/niacinamide/aspirin!

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                                        LetTheRedeemed @bot-mod
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                                        @ThinPicking right? Now I'm even more excited to try Ray's suggestion of topical glucose.

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                                          @Mauritio
                                          You said this in the old rpf thread above:

                                          Interesting . Add a bit of T3 and caffeine to the mix and and you're good to go.
                                          I already apply t3 dissolved in gin, so I might add plain table sugar and see if I notice an improvement.
                                          With the t3 I notice an almost immediate improvement in hair quality and texture . Similar to the difference of a bad vs. a good hair day.

                                          Did you notice anything? I'm wondering if you need to go pure glucose, not table sugar (50/50 fructose/glucose)

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                                            @LetTheRedeemed said in Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”:

                                            @Mauritio
                                            You said this in the old rpf thread above:

                                            Interesting . Add a bit of T3 and caffeine to the mix and and you're good to go.
                                            I already apply t3 dissolved in gin, so I might add plain table sugar and see if I notice an improvement.
                                            With the t3 I notice an almost immediate improvement in hair quality and texture . Similar to the difference of a bad vs. a good hair day.

                                            Did you notice anything? I'm wondering if you need to go pure glucose, not table sugar (50/50 fructose/glucose)

                                            It definitely helps . But I switched to using Apple juice because, it has sugar as well and because of the polyphenol content. Actually I dissolved a full capsule of swansons apple polyphenols in a bit of juice and applied it to my scalp . It really made a difference , but it was such a mess to apply that I stopped.

                                            Dare to think.

                                            My X:
                                            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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