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    what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?

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      risingfire @wester130
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      @wester130 cortisol

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        wester130 @risingfire
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        @risingfire how does a person reduce cortisol if things like dhea, coconut oil, sugar, thiamine etc are not reducing it effectively?

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          jamezb46 @wester130
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          @wester130 increase sodium

          In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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            risingfire @wester130
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            @wester130 Preg, dht, thyroid, niacinamide, RU58841(never tried this). When I was really stressed out I saw an increase in nose and ear hair. DHT will likely increase more body hair though

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              wester130 @jamezb46
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              @jamezb46 @risingfire

              what do you think of this idea?

              https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1gb3mfg/ways_to_reduce_adrenal_androgens_without/

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                Kvirion @wester130
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                @wester130 said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

                how does a person reduce cortisol if things like dhea

                Try emodin (cascara)

                A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                And drinking largely sobers us again.
                ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                  wester130 @Kvirion
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                  @Kvirion said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

                  emodin

                  this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland

                  but I am not sure

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                    wester130 @Kvirion
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                    @Kvirion would this work?

                    https://gorillamind.com/products/cortisol-blocker

                    https://www.morphogennutrition.com/products/emodin

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                      jamezb46 @wester130
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                      @wester130 maybe you should try ammonia detox with calcium alpha keto glutarate and Ornithine

                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                        Kvirion @wester130
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                        @wester130 said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

                        this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland

                        Yep, good point. Treat emodin as a temporary fix/mitigation, when you will continue to work on your general health and well-being...

                        These two products you suggested had too much shitty preservatives inside, etc.

                        I use this one below in tiny doses - I open the capsule and use only about 1/10 or 1/5 at once. You will need to experiment with your optimal dosage. Too much may make you run to the toilet 😉
                        (Cascara is a natural source of emodin)

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                        You can also try this one if available https://idealabs.ecwid.com/Lapodin-p70230379

                        A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                        Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                        There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                        And drinking largely sobers us again.
                        ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                          risingfire @wester130
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                          @wester130 I can't believe I forgot about cypro. Give it a shot. I have no experience with Phosphatidylserine. I'd look deeper into.

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                            wester130 @risingfire
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                            @risingfire do you think low dose cabergoline could work?

                            it seems to reduce prolactin and cortisol

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                              risingfire @wester130
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                              @wester130 I'm sure it would lower prolactin but I'm not sure about cortisol. What is your prolactin at?

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                                wester130 @risingfire
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                                @risingfire

                                i'm looking into a new idea of male PCOS

                                so taking things like spearmint, licorice and Vitex to solve it

                                thoughts?

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                                  16charactersitis @wester130
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                                  @wester130 stay away from licorice, it’s supposed to be highly estrogenic besides messing with your cortisol. I think mint is fine if it suits you, and have heard good things about vitex, so i guess worth a try.

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                                    Hando-Jin @risingfire
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                                    @risingfire said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

                                    @wester130 cortisol

                                    pregnenolone

                                    idea labs cortiNon

                                    cyproheptadine

                                    sugar

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                                      wester130 @Hando-Jin
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                                      @Hando-Jin those would not work for hyperandrogenism

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                                        Hando-Jin @wester130
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                                        @wester130 I don't know. You asked for things that lower cortisol, and all of those things do. You won't know without experimentation, I guess.

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                                          risingfire @16charactersitis
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                                          @16charactersitis I put a lot of time into this idea about two years ago. I don't think those things are really going to move the needle if you truly have the male version of PCOS. You would need DHT, progesterone, thyroid, vitamin D and cypro.

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                                            risingfire @wester130
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                                            @wester130 is male PCOS characterized by hyperandrogenism? I think it would be quite the opposite.

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