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    what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?

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    • KvirionK
      Kvirion @wester130
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      @wester130 said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

      how does a person reduce cortisol if things like dhea

      Try emodin (cascara)

      A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
      Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
      There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
      And drinking largely sobers us again.
      ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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        wester130 @Kvirion
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        @Kvirion said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

        emodin

        this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland

        but I am not sure

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          wester130 @Kvirion
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          @Kvirion would this work?

          https://gorillamind.com/products/cortisol-blocker

          https://www.morphogennutrition.com/products/emodin

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          • jamezb46J
            jamezb46 @wester130
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            @wester130 maybe you should try ammonia detox with calcium alpha keto glutarate and Ornithine

            In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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            • KvirionK
              Kvirion @wester130
              last edited by Kvirion

              @wester130 said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

              this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland

              Yep, good point. Treat emodin as a temporary fix/mitigation, when you will continue to work on your general health and well-being...

              These two products you suggested had too much shitty preservatives inside, etc.

              I use this one below in tiny doses - I open the capsule and use only about 1/10 or 1/5 at once. You will need to experiment with your optimal dosage. Too much may make you run to the toilet 😉
              (Cascara is a natural source of emodin)

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              You can also try this one if available https://idealabs.ecwid.com/Lapodin-p70230379

              A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
              Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
              There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
              And drinking largely sobers us again.
              ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                risingfire @wester130
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                @wester130 I can't believe I forgot about cypro. Give it a shot. I have no experience with Phosphatidylserine. I'd look deeper into.

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                  wester130 @risingfire
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                  @risingfire do you think low dose cabergoline could work?

                  it seems to reduce prolactin and cortisol

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                    risingfire @wester130
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                    @wester130 I'm sure it would lower prolactin but I'm not sure about cortisol. What is your prolactin at?

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                      wester130 @risingfire
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                      @risingfire

                      i'm looking into a new idea of male PCOS

                      so taking things like spearmint, licorice and Vitex to solve it

                      thoughts?

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                        16charactersitis @wester130
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                        @wester130 stay away from licorice, it’s supposed to be highly estrogenic besides messing with your cortisol. I think mint is fine if it suits you, and have heard good things about vitex, so i guess worth a try.

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                          Hando-Jin @risingfire
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                          @risingfire said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

                          @wester130 cortisol

                          pregnenolone

                          idea labs cortiNon

                          cyproheptadine

                          sugar

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                            wester130 @Hando-Jin
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                            @Hando-Jin those would not work for hyperandrogenism

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                              Hando-Jin @wester130
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                              @wester130 I don't know. You asked for things that lower cortisol, and all of those things do. You won't know without experimentation, I guess.

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                                risingfire @16charactersitis
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                                @16charactersitis I put a lot of time into this idea about two years ago. I don't think those things are really going to move the needle if you truly have the male version of PCOS. You would need DHT, progesterone, thyroid, vitamin D and cypro.

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                                  risingfire @wester130
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                                  @wester130 is male PCOS characterized by hyperandrogenism? I think it would be quite the opposite.

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                                    risingfire @Hando-Jin
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                                    @Hando-Jin The 4 riders of the Cortisol Apocalypse

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                                      wester130 @Hando-Jin
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                                      @Hando-Jin https://karger.com/hrp/article-abstract/65/2/106/372778/Liquorice-in-Moderate-Doses-Does-Not-Affect-Sex?redirectedFrom=fulltext

                                      this says it reduces DHEA-S with little impact on Testosterone

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                                        wester130 @risingfire
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                                        @risingfire

                                        The problem is an overactive adrenal gland mostly

                                        I think it is too much DHEA-S but testosterone is normal

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                                          risingfire @wester130
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                                          @wester130 I generally view that as a sign of balding. Too much prolactin

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                                            Corngold @risingfire
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                                            @risingfire

                                            even if it is cortisol, wouldn't estrogen be a factor?
                                            Older guys often get lots of nose/ear/back hair but testosterone is lower. What is the relation of cortisol to estrogen?

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