I know this is probably considered the dark ages, but i was firmly a Red Alert addict. The word addict i guess gives away my fairly unhealthy connection with it, but it did supply me with a peaty experience of joyful anticipation, never adrenaline.
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RE: Peaty Video Games?
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Thanks @LetTheRedeemed, yes i think your right that its probably a better bet to get a complete amino acid profile of gelatine. Recently iv also experimented with 1g of taurine twice a day with the hope to reduce morning adrenaline. I have also tried agmatine sulfate, which is meant to be an anti-adrenaline metabolite of l-arginine (thanks @Hans), but i do wonder if my high adrenaline is there in the morning because its meant to be. I think on waking i simply dont have the metabolic energy for the process of waking (warming the body up etc, as morning temps are still low), so the adrenaline is coming in to rescue the situation. I guess im artificially suppressing the adrenaline in the hope of being less reactive to stress, and start to make a positive cycle of healing the metabolism. A more direct route would be to ensure lower stress and more energy through the night. I think this is why evening co2 baths were so effective.
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Thanks @Ecstatic_Hamster, yeah iv been feeling for a while that (impact of intervention) x (time you spend doing it) = (the biggest health benefit), so small things done consistently and often can sometimes have a far bigger effect. I guess an added variable to this is timing, doing these things when you are most in need. The concept of increasing the tolerance of my central nervous system to co2 and thus my body adjusting by breathing less is very appealing, so the body is always ready to meet that need!
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Thanks for this @CrumblingCookie. It seems like Thiamine, as with other pro metabolic substances like thyroid, needs to be supported with plenty of fuel, from good sugars. I have always been pretty thin which i now put down to stress hormones, so not too worried about over fuelling at the moment, but it is amazing as my stress hormones have come down im starting to put weight on for the first time in my life.
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Wow thanks @mostlylurking i will get stuck i to this!
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Thanks @LetTheRedeemed! I take 2 gram of taurine but have heard L-glycine mentioned positively a few times, what sort of effect do you think it gives you? Do you split doses or take them at certain times?
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Thanks @yerrag sorry i sent my message before i was your reply. I appreciate the detail you have given, my inhaler is on order!
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Thanks @mostlylurking, great article and gives the dosages, might be worth trying 600mg, wondering whether high thiamine would unbalance the other b vitamins?
One thought today is how critical timing of the intervention is. My physiological stress, like many, peaks at night making me feel awful on waking. I think i must become very low energy at night and my stress hormones have to take over. I think thats why the co2 bath in the evening has been effective.Maybe there is a slow release thiamine?
This is where the carbogenetic inhaler set at a low co2 % could come into its own, instead of a pulse of co2, its a more gradual sustained level of co2. @yerrag what percentage co2 did you run your inhaler at overnight? thought i would try 2% to start for 8 hrs. Also wondering if there is a variable resistor in the inhaler electronics that can be tweaked to let it stay on for longer!
Iv also heard that in cancer you want to try a sustain an alkaline state ph of 8, which maybe a sustained use of the inhaler will help with. Can test with urine strips, and when ph8 reached i could maybe see how this correlates to a the oxygen saturation on a pulse oximeter. Once i know the number the pulse oximeter dips to when the co2 displaces the o2 when at ph8, i can use the oximeter as a quicker check to see what the ph is being sustained at. Will need to retest on mum. Thoughts?
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Breathing carbogen and sleeping in it like on oxygen as used in hospitals is safe. The worst that can happen is developing respiratory acidosis. But like anything, it helps not to be a dumb user. As using it correctly is not rocket science, and listening to AMA propaganda makes one dumber and sicker ( like the scam of CPAP respiratory therapy).
Sorry @yerrag after that huge ramble i forgot to ask how do you use it when you sleep with it on and stay safe? Just interested in your personal experience, im in danger of being a dumb user!
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Just taking a look at the carbogenetics.com website and they also have co2 suites which are pretty expensive but to me looks really similar to my next experiment with a survival dry suite filled with co2. The only difference with their one is that they vacuum out the air first, but from experience with a dry suite you can push out the air by crouching in them, like when you go in the sea to stop you bobbing upside down when all the air goes to your feet. The only sketchy part of this plan is ive got to then fill it with a fire extinguisher without getting cold burns haha theres always a price to pay doing things on the cheap! (Suite £35, fire extinguisher £16, gbp).
Anyway the carbogenetics breathing generator looks like a good cost compromise so im going to give one of these a go for my mum as i think its a softer introduction rather than blasting her with a fire extinguisher .
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
@yerrag wow thanks this is super helpful. I’ve heard of carbogen in the book “cancer cured” by mark sloan, but your firsthand experience has got me very interested. Also, i did not know there was a carbogen machine!
I had been experimenting with different ways to absorb the CO2, finding the bath really amazing in bringing down adrenaline. A co2 bath before bed and i woke up really calm. Yesterday i tried filling a wheely bin with co2 from a fire extinguisher, seemed to take alot of co2 to fill (tested with a match), also have to stand in a bin forever ️. My latest plan tonight is iv just bought a used ex-military survival suite from ebay. Its like a dry suite and i thought i could fill that with co2 so i could walk around whilst absorbing the good stuff!
I think a carbogen machine would work well for my mum!
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RE: Your top daily supplement? If you had to pick just 1
Theres supplements that i take because i think its a good idea like vit d3,k2, magnesium, taurine.
But, being true to the question the one thing that i notice i couldnt do without at the moment is progest-e. I have high adrenaline and this really helps me manage it, and slowly it has been bringing it down over time.
Just as a side note, iv had a heavy cold for a month that wouldnt budge so started megadosing vit c (15grams/day) and using an iodine salt pipe. The cold was gone in a week after that, so based on the situation this may have been number one last week!
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RE: Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Thanks @jamezb46 @Cearrson some new things to look into, I appreciate it! Id heard acetazolamide mentioned on dannyroddys podcast but hadnt realised it was connected to co2. With the shower cap on the head at night im guessing once on your head, you fill it with CO2 from a source?
The other thing I forgot to mention is diet, I personally have been trying to increase quality carbohydrates to increase the production of CO2. Trying to get my mum to give it a try!
Will check this other thread too, Thanks!
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RE: Cancer
I recently read a book “cancer cured: victory over the war on cancer” which i believe Ray Peat helped advise the author on. My mum has cancer, and i think the book was really good.
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Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine
Hi all, i started peating about a year ago after a major health challenge and its been a big part of helping to understand how to recover.
More recently my mum has been recovering from cancer and i have been experimenting (trying out) some peaty ideas before i suggest them to my mum (shes a little reluctant so i want to roadtest them first)
Anyway, ive been starting to learn here about how carbon dioxide is so fundamentally therapeutic for cancer due to its ability to oxygenate the cells through the bohr effect.
I first experimented with a co2 bath. I still suffer from brain fog and palpitations, and was amazed the next morning to find them gone. They did eventually come back later that day, but i couldnt believe that two symptoms which i had persistantly for two years dipped for a few hours of relief! I realised this co2 bath really shifted something quite powerfully in the right direction. Excitedly, i told my mum to give it a try to which her response was, “if i get in that bath i wont be able to get out” i totally forgot she struggles enough getting out of a chair.
So my second attempt is to see if she’ll sit in a bin bag full of co2 filled with a fire extinguisher, but by this point mum is starting to think ive gone nuts and its a hard sell.
All of this got me thinking what is some easy everyday ways to increase your co2 without having to do much. I like @haidut hole in a bottle idea which i think my mum will do a bit of and taking a bit of baking soda.
I brought a co2 pollution monitor to experiment with and found if i do a 1hour drive with the cars air recirculation button on the co2 levels rose from 600ppm to 4200ppm! Plus because co2 is heavier than air, the monitor went even higher on the floor of the car (still within a safe range). So to make the most of it ive been doing my morning commute to work and then lying on the floor of the car for a 30min nap.
Has anyone else got any quick wins, hacks for raising co2 in there enviroment or body?