Dandruff or scalp irritation? Try BLOO.
@onliest said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Mossy I was buying powder from a random company online. That's a great price. When I run out I'll try that source out.
There are a lot of brands selling GHK-cu products for huge sums. Trendy peptide rn.
Your pricing of $20 for a gram is much better. Maybe you didn't see the weight, but the link I sent shows $70 for 50mg. Yours is 20 times the amount for less than a third of the cost.
@BearWithMe said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Mossy said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Hearthfire said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@BearWithMe the gels on amazon are Diclofenac sodium 1%
Yes, this is what I'm finding as well. I'm only seeing the sodium variety, everywhere I look.
For example, Voltaren - the best selling and most popular Diclofenac gel - is diethylamine.
I am not seeing that. On Amazon, I see Votaren as the sodium variety:
"Active Ingredients: Diclofenac sodium (NSAID†) 1% (equivalent to 0.93% diclofenac) - Arthritis pain reliever. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug."
@Hearthfire said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
Isn't that the best one though? based on the studies
I only know what the links posted on this thread have shown. I am very new to Diclofenac and am learning along with everyone else. So, based on the SMJ study link, it does seem the sodium variation would be the one to try.
It is worth pointing out that the SMJ study linked above is for alopecia areata, not androgenetic alopecia, or male pattern baldness. That's not to say that this won't work for MPB, just pointing this out.
@GreekDemiGod said in Thyroid Log:
@albion said in Thyroid Log:
@GreekDemiGod Why not try 2:1 or 1:1 ratio T4/T3?
Too much of T3 even when combined with T4 gives me palpitations and chest discomfort.
It's these kind of experiences that keep me away from thyroid. I realize it's just a matter of refining the dose and getting it right. Even so, not fun.
@Hearthfire said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@BearWithMe the gels on amazon are Diclofenac sodium 1%
Yes, this is what I'm finding as well. I'm only seeing the sodium variety, everywhere I look.
@onliest said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Mossy DMSO is cheap. 1g of GHK-Cu is like $20. Cheaper to make your own. When you tried copper peptides, how did you take them?
Thanks for the info on the budgeted GHK-Cu. Do you have a link for the specific product? My saved link for GHK-Cu has it at $70 for 50mg. This is a product that a member on RPF used, where he would make a solution from this. I forget the specifics, but I'm sure it could be searched out on that forum.
When I used it, I purchased a pre-made product made to be applied topically to the scalp. I forget the name. It was fairly expensive.
@yerrag said in I love Dr. Peat so much:
@DavidPS That's more like it. But he could have chosen with this look to take the role of Jack in Three's Company.
Funny!
@onliest said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Mossy what about GHK-cu dissolved in DMSO?
GHK-cu is on my very long list of things to try (again). You may have read I did try copper peptides about 15 years ago, for about a 6 month stint. I do feel that it helped with hair color and maybe even retaining hair, but there is no way for me to tell for sure. But, during that time I also declined into the worst health state of my life. I can't necessarily blame copper peptides, because my life was very stressful at that time as well. I'm more apt to blame the stress than supplements. But, ever since that health decline I've never been the same. I can't take supplements like I used to.
Purely from a cost and convenience perspective, I'm more apt to try Diclofenac than more expensive options, such as GHK-cu. If it weren't for the potential sides I would jump right in.
@BearWithMe said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Mossy Be careful not to cause the side effects just by expecting the side effects. Wish you the best of luck.
It is very interesting that Diclofenac is apparently effective for both hair loss and beard loss. The pathology of the two seems to be very different, almost the opposite?
I get that. A self-fulfilling prophecy. I am conscious of that. And thank you!
I have read many stories of people successfully using minoxidil for beard growth. So, maybe not that different after all.
@Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:
@Mossy I stopped using them topcically, because it was such a mess to apply. But looking backon it that was because of the apple juice i diluted it in.
So maybe I'll give the polyphenols another run mixed with niacinamide and glucose and water.
I hear you. If there's one thing I've learned over the years with these topicals, at least for me, they're impossible to use on a regular basis, apart from during sleep, due to the mess.
The glucose would seem to be a mess, no matter the form. On those lines, I've been thinking of using the common D-Ribose supplement, as opposed to the much more expensive variant of it used in the studies.
@wester130 said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Mossy you should still take caution but this says topical is safer
Indeed. Thank you for bringing that up. I would start very slowly.
@BearWithMe said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
@Mossy said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
After some additional research, I'm going to have to count out taking Diclofenac gel for now, based on potential severe stomach issues, such as ulcers and deterioration of the lining.
If I understand these posts correctly, some users of Diclofenac take an additional supplement or drug to counter the lining deterioration, ulcer issue. That seems like a tightrope that would be hard to walk, getting the balance just right. At least for someone highly susceptible to side effects.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChronicPain/comments/bn7a7z/comment/en3g3zc/
Please correct me if I'm worng. I think these side effects are somewhat common when oral Diclofenac is used, but super super rare when it is applied topically? European drug regulatory agencies doesn't seem to list any such effects, only local irritation / skin-related side effects, and possible allergic reactions (asthma, swelling, very rare, less than 1 report in 10 000), nothing else. Anecdotal evidence seems to support that.
But obviously, with drug / supplement sensitivity you described, one never knows
Thank you for pointing that out. I came back here to say something to that exact point, but you beat me to it. It does seem like those effects are from oral, not topical. But I can tell you that I'm about 95% sure I'll still get them from topical, albeit not as strong. I can't even use topical niacin or niacinamide without negative effects, e.g., allergic reactions: over all malaise, hypoxia-like breathing issues, . Even so, I do have some Diclofenac in my cart on Amazon! I am mulling over whether the name brand would offer a higher quality product, and therefore less sides, as @wester130 was considering.
@Jennifer Thank you for the detail. As opportunity allows, I will try them. Currently, eggs are scarce and the heirloom which were available just several days ago are not. I did read about colorants being used, but if the taste is better and the digestion, I could see value there. For cooked eggs, I've noticed a difference in texture and taste to the whites as well — I'll look for that with heirloom when I get a chance to try them. I understand why you'd want to avoid the whites raw.
@Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:
glucose + niacinamide + apple polyphenols
Do you still use the Swanson brand, for the apple polyphenols?
@Jennifer said in Assumimg I have dysbiosis gut is made worse by any soluable fiber and insoluable:
until I switched to eggs from heirloom hens
I've been noticing heirloom eggs at the store. Are you getting yours direct from a farm or store; also, do you still feel like this is a difference maker for you, digestion wise, over non-heirloom eggs?
@Hearthfire said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
I also would avoid diclo while woundling, as inflammation triggers the growthfactors which makes it even less practical as pgd2 and crth2 inhibit wound induced hf neogenesis.
If true, this is good information to have.
@wester130 said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:
I may try voltarol gel instead
Interesting. You're thinking the non-generic may be more pure, therefore less sides?
@Hearthfire @wester130
It will be good to hear how you guys do on it. Definitely interested to know if you get any sides, with heart and stomach. Too bad that Hairlosstalk forum poster never reported back.
@DavidPS said in Reasons for longevity in Japan?:
@CrumblingCookie - I do not think that HA is the main reason for the longevity of the people in the videos. I think the videos were designed to sell supplements. However, HA will contribute to their youthful appearance.
List Of 15 Foods High In Hyaluronic Acid
In addition, I eat foods high in apigenin. See figure 2 in Apigenin as an emerging hepatoprotective agent: current status and future perspectives (2024)
Eating healthy whole foods is important.
Coincidentally, and anecdotally, my brother, who abuses his body with drink and little sleep, has skin that looks better than it should, for all that abuse. And the two things he eats a lot of, are #1 and #2 in that second list you provide: grapefruit and clementines. He will mix up the clementines with tangerines and mandarins (which maybe have the same nutritional value, idk).
