Posts made by yerrag

@Tahodama said in Why are you all so religious:

Frankly I'm amazed no one's mentioned the elephant in the room, which is that high metabolism individuals will feel strained from only 1 meal and 2 snacks per day during fasting periods, and how little Catholic authorities will do to accommodate this.

I have my doubts about the veracity of recent history of Hitler and Nationalist Socialists vs. Jewish worldwide elites and the Vatican, but I wont go into them as it's a lot of he said she said involved.

But more about high metabolism individuals. It's your lack of understanding of optimal metabolism. Yes, it is high metabolism but thwt doesn't equate to becoming hungry during fasting. Hunger is about being low in blood sugar. With optimal sugar metabolism, sugar is well absorbed and metabolized such that high blood sugar is avoided (except after a meal, which the body allows for thru the action of incretins) and a strong insulin reaction is avoided. Strong insulin reaction causes blood sugar to drop too quickly (as liver converts sugar to fat) to cause blood sugar to drop to hypoglycemic levels. At this point the liver and thyroid's supply of sugar is interrupted, and the sugar metabolism and energy production screeches to a halt, however temporary that may seem to be. It's like a factory that stops humming as it undergoes a shutdown. To restart production, some delay is involved and output of widgets is interrupted, just as in the body the outout of energy is interrupted. Hunger, lowered immunity, susceptibility to allergies- are just few of the consequences. This condition is worsened when the liver has low or no glycogen stores for adrenaline to signal the liver to convert glycogen to blood sugar. And even worse, when the adrenals cannot produce cortisol to convert muscle to blood sugar, especially during extended fasts.

So, no, high metabolism individuals (always where sugar metabolism is optimal, as understood correctly) can weather fasts with no problem at all.

@DavidPS said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag - Here is the quote:
“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.”
― Ian Fleming, Goldfinger

I do not remember if it was in the movie. Fleming was a navel intelligence officer and so he may not have originated the quote. But he certainly popularized it. On Youtube.

I suppose this was referring to the women turning gold? Have to watch the movie again. Those were the days I would line up with my dad on opening day for a Bond movie, though I wasn't sure if I was old enough to watch Goldfinger.

@DavidPS said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action”
― Ian Fleming, Goldfinger

Did Bond say this? In the book, or in the movie? Nice quote.

@Creuset said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Creuset

Are you saying this because you trust everyone and you leave your house doors and car doors unlocked? Either you live in the boondocks or you are too smart for your own good.

You seem to be assuming too many stuff and on defense mode man, relax, I was not talking about you but about Tara.

I will make it clearer since you didn't understand: Tara used to be a wise member, but when the covid craze hit, she got into full paranoia mode, probably because she is a nurse and everybody around her got afraid. Fear can be very contagious, and make smart people act stupid, especially for women who are usually more easily scared than men. I still remember perfectly when this pandemic hit, everyone around me was freaking out and completely irrational, so I'm not surprised at all that she would act this way.

Not saying that your hypothesis about her or Charlie are necessarily wrong by the way, even though I don't think the likelihood of this happening is high.

Sorry for taking your words out of context. I couldn't see thru the forest here, thanks for clarifying. You make a good point about Tara. Being in the trenches would be traumatic, and her perception could have been affected greatly.

It's still hard to think she could be so rattled. My impression of here was that of someone who has a moderating demeanor, and not one to easily be influenced by noise around her. She was nice to be around, like a fixture at RPF.

@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@yerrag

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about his mysterious death. Those that expressed suspicion on the RPF were drowned out, a year later 'Charlie' proclaiming he died of 'by his own sword'. How convenient to undermine and discredit when no one can know how many healthy years he may have added to his life or what predispositions he may have had, just like all of us.. And he didn't die young by any stretch, but still very mysterious.

I'm thinking confuse, divide and conquer. My only question is whether the forum was coopted later or was established by design. As we know -- although Peat rarely spoke of it -- he's been of interest to the powers that be since his establishment of Blake College.

Is there any truth to the rumour that his house was broken into and papers ruffled before he was interviewed by the guys filming On the Back of a Tiger? Then the film was never actually completed, just the raw footage released

I remember them joking in the footage that everybody they interviewed before Peat had passed away recently. They were old, yes, older than Peat, but still it was odd. More coincidences, and these ideas clearly threaten government in bed with an industry desperate to maintain authority and control the public "trusted" narrative, and their censorship tactics are now being exposed showing just how desperate they are.

Through Ray, many unrecognized or forgotten brilliant minds we came to know. He was able to dig back into the past to dedicated scientists and researchers whom our standard filtered education system had made mere footnotes, and whose ideas were buried under the weight of false history. He resurrected these ideas to our awareness and yet he kept abreast of modern discoveries as well, and thru his newsletters bridged the discoveries from across time. Which is why we who read his works can find some sense and coherence in a field of inquiry, health, and be able to spot the glaring flaws in the approaches of the white-robed priestly class known as conventional doctors.

Though no one has yet developed an alternate medical curriculum that would challenge establishment medicine, I believe that drawing a lot of material from Ray Peat's writings, a fresh approach to health can develop beyond the budding bossom of online health forums and eventually find a firmer foothold in the real world.

But it is something to be feared by the establishment. It is why I believe what we are seeing subtle efforts to nip this movement at the bud, though there is no formal one that exists, but the idea is powerful and one to be feared.

Post-COVID, they have lost a lot of credibility. Yet no "Occupy FDA" movement has emerged. Pieces have to be put together, but already some credible leaders have left in recent years - Gilbert Ling, Mae-Wan-Ho, Ray Peat, Patrick Timpone. Sure, they aren't the rabble-rousers that would be needed to begin upending the established order, but they are a stabilizing presence thst would help steer the ship.

I may be getting ahead here, but I think there is much hope and promise, which is why all manners of roadblocks are appearing.

For sure, there will be those among us here who will say that we're thinking too much.

We have quite a ways to go. Let us not be divided further.

@Kilgore It was years back, so my guess be around 4 cloves a day. Not the whole bud.

Maybe if the garlic were cooked and not eaten raw, it wouldn't be so acidic. As you could easily eat that much with some foods, but then, that food isn't eaten everyday, so the acidity doesn't accumulate like when done daily as I had. I was eating raw garlic for 3 months straight, and the effect was felt. Glad to be in a health forum without which I would never have made the connection.

@Creuset

Are you saying this because you trust everyone and you leave your house doors and car doors unlocked? Either you live in the boondocks or you are too smart for your own good.

@Peatful

I feel I know Tara well enough. I know how she writes. Her persona became wooden as seen in her writing. Like someone was ghost writing for her online impersonification. Her being a nurse does not necessarily make her automatically indoctrinated into the COVID Hoax narrative.

Once someone who identity is concealed is targeted, it's just a matter of time for the powers that be to replace the real person behind that online persona. What is all this technology developed by DARPA for but to make the safety of anonymity a honeypot to attract leaders of the genuine opposition, only to entrap and eradicate them when the moment is ripe, the moment being when they start to gain a following that is a budding threat to the established order.

@C-Mex

He dies. I would dare to say under a cloud of mystery.

And then his name is besmirched by none other than a health forum website that bears his name.

And now a fledgling community has splintered.

Divide and conquer?
Hijacking? Co-opting?
Then watering it down?
Then pushing it further into the fringe never to see mainstream daylight?

Slowly and steadily suffocating the spirit to death.

@Kilgore said in Chinese and Bad Breath:

I used to eat raw garlic everyday and people said how much I stink of garlic.

I know that smell. My dad was so into garlic once, until he began to stink.

I don't know if I stunk, but once I tried eating lots of raw garlic I developed a cough that wouldn't go away. Luckily, I happened to read about the sulfur compound in garlic (could be sulfate), an excess of which could metabolize into sulfuric acid, and I made the connection. My body had turned acidic and it lowered my immunity.

A matter of good turned bad due to an excess.

@Ecstatic_Hamster

If I were a betting man, I'd bet on the horse called Ray Peat. He's not going to win all races, but no horse will.

@risingfire

It's from the old playbook. Just as the world slowly warms up to Ray Peat's ideas, with notable personalities such Mercola embracing the anti-PUFA message, it's not just coincidence that the bioenergetic community formed around RPF has become divided.

There are no coincidences (quoting Harry Bosch).

@dangley

Syringes and disposable polypropylene pipettes are very handy.

@jens

If it's copper in food, I have been successful eating a relative of shrimp (based on Peat saying shrimp is copper rich) on a regular basis, and after a year my ceruloplasmin , a copper enzyme, went up from low to high of reference range.

I had to find an alternative to shrimp as it's next to impossible to find shrimp that isn't farm raised with antibiotics and feeds. A small crustacean that is widely uses as a seasoning paste in Southeast Asia was what I ate. The paste is called bagoong and I sautee it with a green leaf veggie called kangkong (convolvus). The paste is made from fermented 'alamang.' It can be found in Filipino grocery stores but in Asian grocery stores it is called by other names.

Supplementing with copper is hit or miss as no one really knows the right dosage, so it's better to eat food rich in copper.

@Kvirion Thanks for the links. Understanding tit for tat from the first link you sent is the perfect segue for the second link on game theory.

I think people can be less likely to use their bully pulpit when they and their audience understand how at times what is intrinsically evil can be a social good.

Sister Prejean of Dead Man Walking conversely is doing something intrinsically good while encouraging a social evil.

@jens

I don't remember the source, but have read that guts that are sensitive to aspirin are due to having a deficiency in copper. It doesn't go much deeper than that, but my guess is that it may involve an enzyme that needs copper.

@risingfire

If you remember Tara at RPF, during the COVID Hoax years, she came to defend the COVID vax. Since I remember my start at RPF with Tara as embracing the side of Peat that favored a healthy lifestyle based primarily on good nutrition, I viewed her in a very positive light. That changed when her representation at the forum turned into a reverse mirrored image of her alter ego. I suspected her online self was hijacked, and not long after she no longer was a member, even thoufh at one time she served as an admin. The true Charlie was still firmly at the helm, and tara was gone - presumably banned.

The problem with being anonymous and hiding behind a handle is that it is not inconceivable that the powers that be could hijack the persona of the main admin, disposing of the original real person behind the persona. It isn't far-fetched to see this happen to Charlie's online persona.

As much as I've come to dislike the original owner of the Charlie online persona, I don't think he would have allowed RPF to sway from its original mission. I'm afraid that site has been hijacked recently, which would explain the inconceivable transpiring now at RPF. So much member posts and shared knowledge on bioenergetics and allied disciplines are stored there, and eradicating it is favorable to the powers that be. It would be a big loss if all of that treasure trove would simply be wiped out.

Am I alone in thinking a deeper conspiracy is at the heart of RPF's recent change in direction? If what I fear is true, what can be done by @brad in preventing a future RPF-style meltdown?

@Truth said in Beware of the Low Vitamin A Zealots- New Thorough Video by Mike Fave:

@yerrag said in Beware of the Low Vitamin A Zealots- New Thorough Video by Mike Fave:

Contrary to the delusional claim of @Truth that I wasn't successful in achieving optimal metabolism, I have achieved that already long ago. And it is by following Ray Peat. Certainly it is hard for health coaches to sell their clients on the idea that 4 years is needed to really get rid of PUFA stores, but the reality may be that. Unless otherwise proven.

As sure as the sun rises and sets, people who can't accept the long time it takes to get rid of PUFA stores in order to live a healthy lifestyle that relies on sugar metabolusm primarily- they would have to embrace the false nutritional lifestyles centered on keto and carnivore. But for their lack of the patience of a turtle, they won't have the kind of health that comes from being less stressed, as their body would have to rely on adaptations that necessitate the production of stress hormones to keep their body in survival mode. On vicious cycles instead of virtuous cycles. One is low energy and shorter lived. The other high energy and longer lived.

It's better to keep your confused comments on the other post, you clearly said weeks ago that the practical application of an "optimal sugar metabolism" is what's missing from Raymond Peat's ideas, and didn't answer when I asked if you reached it practically, and now you claim you reached it through Ray Peat's ideas, no sense.

That's what you said weeks ago, either you're confused, or you're lying, or you don't know how to express your ideas:

@yerrag said in Banned from RP forum : Can you do better than this.:

@Truth

RPF, as I said in previous a previous, has been a failure. Its main pillar is that optimal sugar metabolism is the key to health. Yet the site is vexed and stuck in not knowing how to make its members transform themselves from being poor sugar metabolizers into optimal sugar metabolizers. Ray Peat spoke only about the superiority of having optimal sugar metabolism, bit never spoke how to go about making that transformation. The site could have provided that a workable blueprint on how to go about that transformation, thus enabling many members towards the path to metabolic health. But it never got that going. There was a member named Cirion. He was piling on weight taking in lots of sugar because he believed sugar was good, but his body did not metabolize sugar well, and so he suddenly dropped out never to be heard from again. We don't really know if is still alive.

I feel charlie would be better off refocusing the website towards making the transformation to optimal sugar metabolism be a key goal before he embarked on his anti-peat mission

No sense at all talking sense to you. You've drawn a line in the sand. My attempts at correcting your abject lack of comprehension fail because of your insistence that your interpretation of what I said is what I meant. How is that for being exhibit A for being anal? I am the source of a ststement that you ask me to clarify, and deapite my doing so, you doggedly insist on tour interpretation.

I will just shake the dirt off my sandals and say anathema with you! May I be the last to cast you as good riddance! Have a nice life.

@dan-dominic

Never a dull moment. Mike dissects the subject well and he did his research as objectively as he could. I'm glad he did this as I admit I'm lost in refuting the idea of Vitamin A being a toxin in the way other vitamins are not outside of overdosing.

I am biased towards Ray Peat's view on Vitamin A as I had without question embraced his suggestion of eating a serving of liver once a week and practiced this lifestyle with no specific goal in mind but to improve my general health. But surprised to find that after 5 years on it, my eyesight improved gradually to the point where I had a recent eye exam as part of renewing my driver's license that I realized I am officially not required to wear glasses to drive. At my age, I should be wearing bifocals as I was nearsighted since my high school days and as I got older my ability to read small type became impaired as well.

Until I got the retinol from following Ray's suggestion. I would even go as far as saying that the beta-carotene can't hold a candle to what the retinol in beef liver does to sharpen my eyesight.

I say this because there are some things that involve time that can't be sped up. Growing up from an infant to an adult, making fine wine, the setting and curing of masonry - these are just a few of the examples that many in bioenergetics fail to appreciate when they would reflexively look for a shorter way to get things to improve in their physiology.

My eyesight improved over 5 years, so did my metabolism as I went cold turkey on PUFA and at least 4 years went by before I tested myself to find that I was no longer hypoglycemic, a transformation that is part of my body gradually losing its PUFA stores, which made my body absorb and metabolize blood sugar more readily and efficiently (thru utilizing mitochondrial respiration). It was a slow transformation that is more gentle as the body didn't have to be subjected to sudden changes in shifting its the mix in its metabolic pathways in creating energy. The end result is expressed as better blood sugar regulation (sugar spikes mean nothing to me at all as I coyld easily absorb sudden huge sugar intakes like a healthy river drains a sudden flash storm) and in good, if not optimal acid-base balance (due to the abundance of CO2 produced from oxidative respiration, which is well used by the body as a pH buffer).

I only say this because Mike seems to be saying that Ray Peat saying it takes as long as 4 years to get rid of PUFA stores from the time PUFA intake is stopped - shouldn't be taken seriously. I want to say that Ray isn't wrong at all, and my testimonial backs Ray's idea on this.

I know this isn't a popular position, but it is what it is. Most people would rather find a ahorter time frame, and I dont blame them. Perhaps Mike has a way, as haidut has been talking about the combo of using aspirin and niacinamide while being on cold turkey from PUFA for years now.
And haidut hasn't really slimmed down a bit. Neither have the members in RPF during the years I've been with RPF.

Contrary to the delusional claim of @Truth that I wasn't successful in achieving optimal metabolism, I have achieved that already long ago. And it is by following Ray Peat. Certainly it is hard for health coaches to sell their clients on the idea that 4 years is needed to really get rid of PUFA stores, but the reality may be that. Unless otherwise proven.

As sure as the sun rises and sets, people who can't accept the long time it takes to get rid of PUFA stores in order to live a healthy lifestyle that relies on sugar metabolusm primarily- they would have to embrace the false nutritional lifestyles centered on keto and carnivore. But for their lack of the patience of a turtle, they won't have the kind of health that comes from being less stressed, as their body would have to rely on adaptations that necessitate the production of stress hormones to keep their body in survival mode. On vicious cycles instead of virtuous cycles. One is low energy and shorter lived. The other high energy and longer lived.

@Norwegian-Mugabe

I think Indians smell because of the kind of spice and herbs and curry blends they use regularly.

Otoh, I had a roommate from Spain who like food cooked that has the natural flavor and taste of meat and vegetables sourced fresh with not too much seasoning. He's from Valencia, so I may only be speaking of Valencians, but he has a strong body odor as well.