Bloodwork shows elevated TPOAb (Hashimoto's disease)
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Thanks LucH and Jennifer.
Yeah, I hope the prolactin comes down with improved thyroid!
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I Insr referenced this topic on
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I now have my iodine consumption somewhere around 100-150mcg per day and I continue to have good high temperatures, a quick mind, no more procrastination, more energy and endurance. Such an amazing improvement in so little time, and so far it's permanent!
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@Insr how do you determine your Iodine intake? Cronometer does not show any data
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I think high dose iodine really did a number of me so I definitely would caution supplementing with iodine.
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Recent Mercola interview and article on the subject.
You can print and download the pdf.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/01/12/excess-iodine-thyroid-health.aspx
"You're changing your past every time you learn something because you become a different organism" Ray Peat
"Everything is changing thru time, whether it's a word, organism, thing. The world around it changes, and so its relationships change"Ray Peat
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@GRay I got info from studies. Here's the numbers I'm using. I can't guarantee they're perfect as I haven't gone super in depth. Also the real amount can vary a lot, these are averages.
Cup of milk (USA) or yogurt: 84 mcg.
1 ounce cheese: 14 mcg
small pat of butter: 4 mcg
1 egg: 26 mcg
3 oz of typical fish: 27 mcg (some species are much higher)
3 oz beef or chicken: 14 mcg
Misc (all the various fruits, vegetables, bread through the day, which are usually low in iodine): 10 mcg total for my typical day of eating.
Teaspoon (6 grams) iodized salt: 312 mcg
6 grams of sea salt: 4 mcg. (edit 1/28/25: Apparently sea salt iodine content can vary a lot actually. Some of it is quite high.) -
@Sunniva said in Bloodwork shows elevated TPOAb (Hashimoto's disease):
Recent Mercola interview and article on the subject.
You can print and download the pdf.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/01/12/excess-iodine-thyroid-health.aspx
1 Can't reach the interview: Must give your mail address.
2. Its claims excess iodine is bad (title). All excesses are bad.
3. Mercola sells iodine supplement, namely -/ 1500 mcg from kelp, I thinK.
He takes people for pigeons or something like that.
Conclusion: Vertical classification (trash can). -
@LucH
Doesn't everyone have a throwaway email?The gist of the interview is that even if you are trying to limit your sources of iodine, you will still get some/enough.
While mercola is obviously a marketer, I think he does evolve with new info. He has learned from Ray Peat, Georgi, etc.
There was a time I thought I should be taking alot of iodine, and I did , from Dr Brownstein.
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@Insr following your estimate, even if I don’t drink milk, I definitely get enough Iodine
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By the way, I just ran across this post:
@TexugoDoMel said in Thyroid Log:
Iodine is very important but remember that iodine displaces bromide and fluoride and can cause unpleasant symptoms precisely because of this. It's a good idea to adjust the amount of selenium too, as there's a good chance you'll feel unwell when supplementing with iodine if you're deficient in selenium.
Could this explain why I feel lots better with low iodine?
I don't think so, because:
Flouride
I have drunk primarily well water (which is also filtered through a berkey filter) - so this is not fluoridated water. I know there's some flouride exposure from stuff like orange juice when they add water to the concentrate in the factory, but other than that, I'm not getting much flouride. I've drunk almost exclusively water from that well for 4 years, and 50% of my daily water intake was from that well for 8 years before that. So I must be much lower in fluoride exposure than typical.Bromide
I eat almost exclusively homemade food, almost never any additives, and mostly organic. I hardly ever eat bread that isn't homemade. So I think my bromide exposure is extremely low compared to typical. That has been the case for a good 8 years.Selenium
Up until recently I've eaten plenty of eggs, meat, some seafood, and brazil nuts (though brazil nuts are probably not the selenium powerhouses people claim) - so my selenium intake has been consistently higher than what is probably typical.Is it really iodine?
By the way, I just recently tried an experiment where I increased the iodine back up to see what would happen and it made me feel awful, very low thyroid feeling. -
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@Insr said in Bloodwork shows elevated TPOAb (Hashimoto's disease):
Thank you! I've switched to sea salt.
Hi,
Salt is not the right kind for iodine: quick evaporation (not stable and it contains Cl => halogen).
We need two kinds of iodine: I2 and KI. See Lynne Farrow if you want to understand why. -
@Insr said in Bloodwork shows elevated TPOAb (Hashimoto's disease):
By the way, I just ran across this post:
@TexugoDoMel said in Thyroid Log:
Iodine is very important but remember that iodine displaces bromide and fluoride and can cause unpleasant symptoms precisely because of this. It's a good idea to adjust the amount of selenium too, as there's a good chance you'll feel unwell when supplementing with iodine if you're deficient in selenium.
Could this explain why I feel lots better with low iodine?
I don't think so, because:
Flouride
I have drunk primarily well water (which is also filtered through a berkey filter) - so this is not fluoridated water. I know there's some flouride exposure from stuff like orange juice when they add water to the concentrate in the factory, but other than that, I'm not getting much flouride. I've drunk almost exclusively water from that well for 4 years, and 50% of my daily water intake was from that well for 8 years before that. So I must be much lower in fluoride exposure than typical.Bromide
I eat almost exclusively homemade food, almost never any additives, and mostly organic. I hardly ever eat bread that isn't homemade. So I think my bromide exposure is extremely low compared to typical. That has been the case for a good 8 years.Selenium
Up until recently I've eaten plenty of eggs, meat, some seafood, and brazil nuts (though brazil nuts are probably not the selenium powerhouses people claim) - so my selenium intake has been consistently higher than what is probably typical.Is it really iodine?
By the way, I just recently tried an experiment where I increased the iodine back up to see what would happen and it made me feel awful, very low thyroid feeling.Honestly I can't tell you if it's your case, I just mentioned the most common negative things attributed to iodine. I also don't know your exact routine but many people overestimate how much they avoid, depending on where you live even if you filter the water you drink you bathe in fluoridated/chloridated water every day if you don't use filters everywhere else in the house too.
The possibilities are varied. It could be those things I mentioned before, it could be iodine consumption increasing oxygenation (which isn't good if it's not accompanied by an antioxidant system in order because it increases ROS), or several other interactions. In general, I'm just skeptical when people attribute everything to iodine because I've never seen anyone who attributes their symptoms to iodine consume a lot of it, which makes me believe that the problem has another origin.
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@Insr said in Bloodwork shows elevated TPOAb (Hashimoto's disease):
Is it really iodine?
By the way, I just recently tried an experiment where I increased the iodine back up to see what would happen and it made me feel awful, very low thyroid feeling.Iodine overload can cause transient hypothyroidism, due to a protective mechanism. This is the whole point of progressiveness...
For other readers:
Even if overload only occurs in 10% of people who started with a high dosage. The NIS symporters should have been acclimatized/re-educated before taking Lugol 1% 10 mg or Iodoral 12.5 mg.
Vocabulary: Na/I symport (NIS), or sodium/iodide symport, is a transmembrane glycoprotein catalyzing the active transport of circulating iodide and participating in the synthesis of thyroid hormones.Edit:
A high dosage of iodine will dislodge/drive away the halogens attached to the thyroid gland, causing an overload in blood circulation. The liver is then unable to process residual molecules derived from bromine, chlorine or fluorine. This makes people sick ... -
Thank you Texugo and @LucH for your replies, I appreciate any help. I certainly don't like having a food intolerance I have to watch out for, it would be much more convenient if I didn't have to worry about iodine!
@TexugoDoMel Because it's well water, my bathing water is also free of flouride and chlorine.
I asked you in the other iodine thread for more info about the antioxidant idea.
Thanks!
