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@Jakeandpace said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
Health is like a wild goose chase sometimes and because of that it in my opinion it can actually be healthier to take a look at your life and its direction than fix a problem that needs not be fixed.
I agree with you, here. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I think fixing the problem may create a biofeedback loop where one gets used to always fixing a problem, which seems like what you're saying about a wild goose chase.
But, at some level I think starting at some of these minor things may help us unlearn unhelpful habits and learn or re-learn good habits. The paradox may be paying less attention to health in order to truly be well: fair enough.
I think most people get into Peat to solve certain health issues. For me it is mostly low energy, depression, muscle pain/lethargy. I had slow or bad digestion, no concern or understanding for pufa/fast food, reliance on tobacco and alcohol.
The bioenergetic sphere remains relevant because it encourages experimentation and deeper understanding. I don't dogmatically avoid salads, but, when I realized every time I eat salad I get stomach pain and bad digestion, and understood some of the raw veggies/greens consumption through the Peat lenses, I could constructively drop the salad idea without a sense of guilt about not eating "healthy."
Of course, most people encouraging healthier physique and digestion promote spinach, kale, blah blah. It helps to hear alternative opinions and test them out. And of course it turns out that "alternative" often something almost like 1950s standard home-cooked meals, not to be cliche and cringe. A lot of people were healthier in general back then and it obviously was not due only to food. I think we're all totally misled about "good" and "bad" food, good and bad health indicators, etc., and generally this moral confusion in most aspects of modern life.
Maybe some people are better off not thinking about their food intake and habits. But I think we both know examples of people who never thought twice about chain-smoking, drinking, drugs, McD's or whatever else, and probably suffered for it. Now, their suffering may not have been what we think; we suffer regardless. If we aren't suffering poor digestion it will be something else: true.
I think the goal is to consolidate or break down the body-mind-spirit suffering to be able to work with it better. Some people drown physical or mental problems with drugs. Some people use food to compensate for drug problems. And, some people turn to exercise, sex or fighting as physical releases to deal with drug, food, and psychological problems. They're all related so I don't think it's fair to say bioenergetic research is "stressful" or obsessive or only about supplements or what some of the figure-heads think. I don't think I've supplemented anything beyond aspirin, which I took before reading Peat, and generally just changing my foods and upping carb intake.
The stress of obsessing over health
I think you make a good point about trying to look at one's life. The catch is that when you're depressed, probably hypothyroid, probably low in Vit D, eating poorly, having bad work experiences and low pay, etc., all of these things accumulate and suffocate the mind as well as the body. I think it's a slow climb.
be sure to leave your thoughts if you think I’m talking absolute rubbish or not I’d love to hear it.
Like I said, in general, agree with your ideas. I'm still trying to listen through Peat's radio interviews here and there. But yeah, there's definitely a threshold of useful : not useful information. Generative Energy is closer to pure entertainment. I have the view that Peat was closer to a genuine intellectual who happened to be interested in nutrition and biology. He wasn't approaching it as a paycheck or a medical career. This matters somewhat because the medical industry is very "complex" and not "transparent."
As many others have said elsewhere, Peaty eating usually clears up the mind, gives the body more energy. Not an end in itself but a process.
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@yerrag I like your comment and agree, but I'm specifically referring to the guys who hopped on bioenergetic.forum in the beginning and ran off some cool rpf members who were around forever and some who talked to Peat more than any of us.
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@Kvirion said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
@dapose said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
I still listen to most old GE podcast all the time
Yeah, me too.
I hope Haidut will be a more frequent guest on the Strong SItas podcast.
Yep, I would also like such kind of native/indigenous animism (like Aboriginals in Australia) to become a thing again...
BTW
Danny and Haidut's beef ended a year ago with a declaration of peace, but it seems that some bad blood stayed...Just saw that Haidut was on a podcast with Danny in October:
https://www.jayfeldmanwellness.com/bv-3-georgi-dinkov-responds-to-estrogen-criticism-serotonin-confusion-and-low-thyroid-on-carnivore/So I hope there isn't much bad blood left and that there could be a possibility of a renewed partnership sometime in the future.
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@Luke
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
@Luke
️ it’s valentines anything could happenI can already picture Danny and Georgi riding through Venice in a gondola and toasting their renewed friendship with a glass of orange juice while violins play in the background, and a choir of angels sings: “F*** you, Mercola!”
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@Luke best Hallmark movie ever
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@gg12 It would probably help if this forum could email out a weekly summary of popular topics, like some other forums do.
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@rzero good idea
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@Luke said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
Just saw that Haidut was on a podcast with Danny in October:
I read somewhere - probably on this forum or on X that the podcast was recorded before the beef...
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@Kvirion said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
@Luke said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
Just saw that Haidut was on a podcast with Danny in October:
I read somewhere - probably on this forum or on X that the podcast was recorded before the beef...
Oh. Then they really took their time.
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Yep, these are old episodes series that are being released now.
Jay probably had to sit on them for a bit given his relationship status with Danny.
I think Danny boycott Jay and anyone that agrees to keep going on Mercola.
Danny is very passionate about Ray.
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@xeliex said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
Yep, these are old episodes series that are being released now.
Jay probably had to sit on them for a bit given his relationship status with Danny.
Oh, that's interesting. Thank you for letting us know.
I think Danny boycott Jay and anyone that agrees to keep going on Mercola.
Danny is very passionate about Ray.
Yeah, I appreciate his devotion and militant support for Ray Peat.
However, I think Dr. Peat would prefer spreading his knowledge wide over holding grudges...
BTW, If I remember correctly Mercola apologized on the old forum...
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@xeliex said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
Danny is very passionate about Ray.
True but it is also broader than that.
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@Kvirion said in Forum seems kinda dead... What other forums do you guys use:
BTW, If I remember correctly Mercola apologized on the old forum...
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Danny and Jay are not on speaking terms as well?
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@Luke
Not sure man, but after Jay agreed and went back on Mercola, Danny was upset and I believe stopped collaborating wit Jay. -
Danny and Mike are cool
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Lol that half ass apology and that perfect response that got you banned
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I would love to watch a video review of Mr. Mercola’s brand new book by Danny! Ha! I’m sure Mercola figured out everything Ray got wrong.
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@dapose lol that would be great
