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@Jennifer said in did taking Armour the Peat way at night worked for you?:

Anyhow, fingers crossed the combination of Xifaxan and Neomycin does the trick.

thank you.

@risingfire

No idea, perhaps @Jennifer knows more about it.

@Jennifer

I’m glad you have resolved your gut issues. It seems to be a bit complicated resolving gut issues.

I just had a visit with my gastro today. We want to try another course of Xifaxan along with Neomycin this time, funny we just talked about this yesterday. He mentioned some potential side effects from Neomycin to watch for.

He did mentioned the SIBO test being very expensive and not covered by insurance, so at the moment it is not an option for me.

He is not comfortable to do more than 2 weeks course at time. I will have a follow up in 4 weeks see how things are, perhaps trying another course later.

@Jennifer

thanks for the info.

My Xifaxan course was for 2 weeks only. How would you know if I have SIBO or IBS? can you actually have both?

Hi Guys.

I'm wondering if you include protein from plant on the total daily count, or leave them out as they have very low biological value.

I'm aiming for about 150gr of tot daily protein, and it looks like I'm getting 135 from animal food only, then about another 20gr from plant protein.

@Jennifer said in did taking Armour the Peat way at night worked for you?:

Do you have any digestive issues when not consuming milk?

I do. It has been for about 4 years that I'm dealing with something.

I went to a gastroenterologist and we thought a possible SIBO as my symptoms were sometime diarrhea after eating, plus constipation and bloating. We tried a course of Xifaxan but did not resolve the issue. Gasto then said it could be IBS, and suggested a probiotic.

I started the MegaSpore since it is Peat friendly, and It did helped immediately with the diarrhea symptom. At some point I even saw my stool forming normally but it did not resolve the issue. I'm not really sure if it is doing anything right now.

I still often complaining about not "empty" out well and constipation, and my stool not forming that often either.
I have been trying the carrot salad and mushroom for a while, with the latter more effective to get rid of constipation.

@Jennifer said in did taking Armour the Peat way at night worked for you?:

Without knowing the test subjects’ thyroid functions in the study you linked or how accurate blood values as a measurement are compared to isotopes in the study Ray referenced, and not having the study, since he mentions it in email exchanges with other forum members, I can’t answer you with confidence, but the results aren’t that far off from each other, anyway. Just for reference, here are the email exchanges:

“[TAKING THYROID WILL HAVE LONG-TERM EFFECTS] Experimenters using isotopes gave large doses of thyroid until the subjects' glands were completely shut off, and when they stopped giving the doses, everyone's gland returned to normal activity in just 2 or 3 days. The gland is extremely quick to adjust its activity, both up and down, except when it's inhibited by stress, or PUFA, or estrogen, etc.

[HOW TO STOP THYROID] If a person's thyroid gland has been inhibited by very high doses of a supplement, it takes only 2 or 3 days for the gland to resume full activity, and because it takes time for the hormone to be excreted, suddenly stopping a supplement shouldn't be noticeable, when the gland isn't being inhibited or malfunctioning.”

— https://expulsia.com/health/emailexchanges#Long_Term_Effects

thanks for your thoughts. I heard Ray mentioning this before

@Jennifer said in did taking Armour the Peat way at night worked for you?:

I see, @GRay. You’ve increased carbs and decreased fat and protein, but have you experimented with different carb and protein sources? I ask because I, and other people I have worked with to optimize their health, have discovered that some sleep well with simple sugars and dairy as their main carb and protein sources, while others sleep better with starch and meat, especially the glycine-rich, as their main sources.

I haven't really experienced that much. I tried few times to add more dairy with milk but I can't tolerate it. It would be so easy to get protein and carbs in with milk, but I get constipated. Raw milk is a little bit better. Cheese seems to be ok with me, I eat 2/3 oz per day.

I eat 140gr of carbs from white rice divided in half lunch/dinner, the rest of my carbs is fruit honey. Do you think a safe trial could be replacing the 140gr of rice carbs with plain sugar?

@Jennifer

I'm not so sure TSH recover that fast after stopping/reducing T3 or NDT, I mean I'd like to think that.

In the study I'm attaching below, a single 50mcg dose of T3 lowered TSH for several days. Now, 50mcg all in once is a huge dose, perhaps 5/10mcg at the time won't have same effect.

what do you think?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24977379/

@Jennifer said in did taking Armour the Peat way at night worked for you?:

Have you noticed any sleep improvements with dietary changes?

My diet style has been very similar for years. Since opening to Peat ideas I eat more carbs less fat and a bit less protein. I thought initially eating more carbs especially at night would help with sleep, but most of the times I still wake up a couple of times during sleep,

@Jennifer

thanks for your feedback. I wish I can fall a sleep within a minute and sleep sound through the night too.

I was also taking half grain before breakfast and lunch, for the past month I have tried with a 1/4 before dinner, sometime with food, some time without. For the first couple of weeks I thought it wouldn't bother my ability to fall a sleep, but after a month I thought it did. I stopped it now and I seem to fall a sleep better. I was hoping the extra 1/4 would improve my sleep but it didn't.

Curious if you have any TSH to compare with the same dose Amour with food vs without

It seems that Peat also recommended to take NDT just like a synthetic product like Cynoplus.

I believe his general recommendation was to take half grain with lunch dinner and breakfast.

how did that dose at dinner work for you? did it cause you some trouble falling a sleep or insomnia?

I do not think Armour should be taken like cynoplus, perhaps twice a day is enoguh, and on an empty stomach. The T3 in it won't peak that fast like the T3 in Cynoplus

I have tried the Progest-E as well, but even this, did not raise my Progesterone level. Therefore, Progesterone in Vitamin E has a very short half life, just the opposite of what Peat said.

@CrumblingCookie thanks for expressing your thoughts. I always learn allot from it!

I’m wondering if anyone is actually testing Progesterone levels before supplementing.

If your Progesterone is low, I think you going to have all good benefits from a drop or maybe two of Progest È, but if you don’t need any, too much Progesterone can have its side effects

@LucH

thanks for taking a look at this video and commenting on it.

@LucH

I read Dr Browstean book years ago and started the Iodine. However, lately I have changed completely my mind about it.

I made a post in the forum, if you have time, watch the video attached to it and let me know what you think about, this is completely the opposite view on Iodine.

https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/3795/mercola-strong-sista-and-alan-christianson-on-excess-iodine?_=1739569295506

@Mr-X thanks

do you mind sharing your dosing protocol and TSH level?

@LucH

thanks. it seems to be in line with another post I found on this forum. Some mention they take NDT with food and dairy to drop the ration of T4 to T3 from 4:1 to 3 to perhaps 2:1.

Danny Roddy in a video I recall was showing a study just delaying absorption, but according to the study you posted, it seems to be doing a little bit of both, delaying absorption and decreasing absorption of T4, probably not that clinically significant when t4t3 combo is used.

@TexugoDoMel

isn't that the T4 and T3 in NDT digest/absorb in a different manner from synthetic T4 and T3, therefore we can't really account for the text you attached , or this comes from a study that used specifically NDT?

I suspect that if we compare absorption with food/Ca of NDT vs Synthetic t4/T3 combo, things may be different