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    • CO3C
      CO3 @Ena
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      @Ena said in Help with EU Sources:

      @CO3 Is Progest-E = progesterone? Maybe with some added Vitamin E?

      If so, you’re kind of lucky living in Spain where Progesterone is available over the counter. Not like in the UK where I live currently.

      Is this even true? I've been searching for sources to buy (bioidentical) progesterone for like half an hour and half the sources I get are UK sources. Plus for many years now Progest-E has been sold on a UK website.

      Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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        Ena @CO3
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        @CO3 Yes it is true.

        I bought bioidentical progesterone at a physical pharmacy in Spain. I just went into the nearest regular farmacia.

        Seidigestan - 30 capsules of 100 mg - €5.81

        They are also available in 200 mg but are then, for some reason, more expensive per mg.

        Unfortunately, the capsules are not separable, so I make a hole and squeeze out a little bit every day. I use one 100 mg capsule over 3 days.

        2024-09-25 Progesterona - smaller.jpeg

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          wester130 @CO3
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          @CO3 onasnatural?

          forefronthealth?

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            Kafkaz @edouard
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            @edouard
            Bio-gelatine, from pigs
            https://sobo-naturkost-shop.de/epages/72ede859-e2bc-4091-9bdb-60fe7768ab7c.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/72ede859-e2bc-4091-9bdb-60fe7768ab7c/Products/14511

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            • CO3C
              CO3 @Ena
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              @Ena how did you find out it's bio-identical? Thanks btw!

              Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                edouard @Kafkaz
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                @Kafkaz Amazing, thanks!

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                  Ena @CO3
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                  @CO3 [about progesterone without prescription in Spain]

                  First of all, my British GP told me that bioidentical progesterone is called Utrogestan.

                  So, I simply brought a handwritten piece of paper to the Spanish pharmacy stating, in English as well Spanish, that I was looking for bioidentical progesterone similar to Utrogestan.

                  And they gave me Seidigestan.

                  Back home I checked on the Seid Lab homepage. They call it “natural progesterone” though, but I have googled a lot and found everywhere that Utrogestan and Seidigestan are similar.

                  The Spanish Drug Centre simply states the content as “progesterone”. They also state that the capsules are made from sunflower and soy. Sadly.

                  https://cima.aemps.es/cima/dochtml/ft/60814/FT_60814.html#6

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                  • GreekDemiGodG
                    GreekDemiGod @Ena
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                    Does anyone know if Levotiron is a good T4 product?IMG_5297.jpeg

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                    • oliveoilO
                      oliveoil
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                      Anybody knows a good source for nicotine? I’ve been wanting to try nicotine micro-dosing to increase my focus.

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                        wester130 @oliveoil
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                        @oliveoil this looks interesting

                        https://troscriptions.com/products/bluecannatine

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                        • oliveoilO
                          oliveoil @wester130
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                          @wester130 This thread is about EU (European Union) sources, you linked a product sold in the US. Thank you nonetheless.

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                            wester130 @oliveoil
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                            @oliveoil

                            sorry, I remember in the UK buying liquid nicotine drops being sold as a nootropic, however the google results have been destroyed by vaping nicotine which is not the same thing

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                              bot-mod @wester130
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                              @wester130 said in Help with EU Sources:

                              the google results have been destroyed by vaping nicotine which is not the same thing

                              You can get high concentration nicotine in a glycerol base with no additives to make "eliquid". You could repurpose and dilute it to make drops quite easily I guess.

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                                wester130 @bot-mod
                                last edited by wester130

                                @ThinPicking i found it

                                www.mitolab.com

                                "We used to sell nicotine solution via our website, Mitolab.com, but became aware that individuals were purchasing for uses other than intended (non-clinical/R&D research). We have a small quantity remaining but ask customers to confirm their usage before we invoice directly. We will not be restocking once this quantity is gone."

                                I disagree too, the stuff used in vaping is not pure, you want it sold as a nootropic but few companies are doing it

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                                  bot-mod @wester130
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                                  @wester130 said in Help with EU Sources:

                                  the stuff used in vaping is not pure

                                  Of course not, attempting to vape pure nicotine would probably kill you. What I'm referring to is a base ingredient of pure pharma grade (EP in europe and probably 99.7%) glycerol (commonly used in medicine, not propylene glycol) and a very high concentration of pure nicotine. Which you could make yourself but I wouldn't go anywhere near pure nicotine personally. You could then dilute to the desired concentration with whatever base you wanted.

                                  you want it sold as a nootropic but few companies are doing it

                                  This is probably how they're making it. And their "clean room" is probably some guy wearing a lab coat and hair net in a warehouse.

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                                    bot-mod @bot-mod
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                                    It is indeed exactly the same thing. Diluted to a concentration of 20 mg/mL.

                                    https://web.archive.org/web/20201112004236/https://mitolab.com/product/nicotech-nicotine-solution-usp-30ml-100ml/

                                    "USP grade nicotine, EP grade vegetable glycol (100%)" (100% is impossible, they mean close)

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                                      Alomongerpete @oliveoil
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                                      @oliveoil https://nicotonic.uk/

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                                      • voldtzeigV
                                        voldtzeig
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                                        Anyone got a good vitamin K supplement for eu?

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                                        • LucHL
                                          LucH @voldtzeig
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                                          @voldtzeig
                                          More expensive. Mine comes from iherb.com
                                          Thorne liquid Mk4.
                                          Expensive if you only look at the price. I take one drop morning. Best 2x/d (half life).
                                          Need a lot of fat to assimilate it. Proportional at 14 - 24 - 36 g fat.
                                          2 kinds: 1 mg or 600 mcg (?) with D3.

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                                          • LukeL
                                            Luke @LucH
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                                            @LucH said in Help with EU Sources:

                                            @voldtzeig
                                            More expensive. Mine comes from iherb.com
                                            Thorne liquid Mk4.
                                            Expensive if you only look at the price. I take one drop morning. Best 2x/d (half life).
                                            Need a lot of fat to assimilate it. Proportional at 14 - 24 - 36 g fat.
                                            2 kinds: 1 mg or 600 mcg (?) with D3.

                                            That's the only good one I have ever tried. By far the most expensive if looked at the price per bottle, but more than 1000 drops per bottle and 1mg per drop.

                                            The D/K2 only has 100 mcg K2 and 500 IU Vitamin D per drop (the data on iherb is per two drops for whatever reason).

                                            K2 MK7 gave me weird symptoms.

                                            I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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