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Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements)

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    Corngold @BroJonas
    last edited by May 2, 2025, 3:37 PM

    @BroJonas

    Yes. There are a handful of Renaissance men currently including Peat. But it is up to the student to find them. But place not your trust in princes (or mortals).

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      dapose
      last edited by May 2, 2025, 5:36 PM

      No one has steered me back to my own self guidance better than Ray. Every week I go back to his articles and interviews with him. The politics and science ones the last few weeks. Ray taught people how to pay attention to themselves and care about your own perception/perspective.
      Gurus tell you how to do what they are doing. Which can be very helpful! But also slightly wrong, and than you donโ€™t know when to correct.
      I think Georgi is the next best thinker to Ray fallowed by Kathleen Stewart and maybe T3uncoupled and Anabology gets an honorable mention for Synergizing weight loss information better than almost anyone.
      I wouldnโ€™t do half the things any of these people recommend but I like thinking about all these peopleโ€™s ideas.
      I think T3ucoupled deserves credit for being an artist. All the health people out there are severely lacking in creative thinking, larger consciences magical thinking like Ray had. Talking to cats and antsโ€ฆ yep. That shit is real as unsweet oj giving you a stomach ache. And no one talks about it. Old grow forest being The Way! Painting! We need to be painting and playing music and making art.
      ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŒž๐ŸŒธ

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        herenow
        last edited by herenow May 2, 2025, 9:26 PM May 2, 2025, 6:52 PM

        RP died while doing interviews into his 80s. Georgi and the other names are too young. I require an elderly guru ๐Ÿ™‚

        Peter Rogers has some similar quirks and he's 61. He answers questions that Ray would answer like is this or that "safe." I found myself watching his youtubes even though his diet is humanly impossible and I realized that I was using him to replace Ray because I got used to Ray being around.

        @samson That my opinion too. Ray's a product of an environment that doesn't exist

        @Hando-Jin Tom Cowan is old enough but he's not quirky enough. Everything about him screams normal. I bet he likes watching football games and spending time with his grand kids. Not workable ๐Ÿ˜ž

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          Kvirion @herenow
          last edited by May 3, 2025, 2:04 PM

          @herenow said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

          RP died while doing interviews into his 80s. Georgi and the other names are too young. I require an elderly guru ๐Ÿ™‚

          Agreed.

          I'm trying to have a distributed guru now, i.e., learning from experts in different fields/arts and then assembling puzzles myself, but somehow with Ray in mind... Perceive. Think. Act...

          A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
          Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
          There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
          And drinking largely sobers us again.
          ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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            herenow @dapose
            last edited by herenow May 4, 2025, 12:15 AM May 4, 2025, 12:07 AM

            @dapose said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

            I think Georgi is the next best thinker to Ray fallowed by Kathleen Stewart

            I checked 2 of her interviews out. She seems really smart and I'm glad you mentioned her but I can't replace the great wise old man Dr. Ray Peat with what appears to be a 19 year old woman. I think people here are more flexible than I am (well good for you then ๐Ÿ™‚ )

            Georgi is great but he's too young and he's so busy that he only has time to guru at stop lights on the way to his day job.

            Danny Roddy is far too young and in all honesty he's not confident enough to inspire confidence. It's an issue.

            Some people have mentioned reading and listening to Ray's old stuff and that's great but things change and the next covid type event will need someone still with us.

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              Rah1woot
              last edited by Rah1woot May 4, 2025, 1:47 AM May 4, 2025, 1:43 AM

              Michael Hudson is a good modern voice on economics. Especially the book "Superimperialism" discussing the US-oriented structure of the international monetary system, how IMF "aid" is predatory lending, etc. But not a crackhead arguing for a reactionary return to commodity money a la bitcoin. More so a sovereign generation of credit.

              The rapid-fire speech and encyclopedic knowledge in older age, and the resolute opinionated dissolution of a subject traditionally thought of as inscrutable and meaningless ("modern monetary theory" -- scientific nutrition) strike me as Peaty.

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                A Former User @Rah1woot
                last edited by May 4, 2025, 5:39 AM

                @Rah1woot Superabundance is a pretty decent book about economics too

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                  DKJoeAgain @Peatful
                  last edited by May 4, 2025, 10:01 PM

                  @Peatful it's awesome that you had actual correspondence with him, I suppose I'm a bit more sensitive of ascribing a portion of health or biology to his name due to what happened with the toxinforum, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a bit triggering to watch.
                  Regardless he changed my life with his analysis of William Blake. Take any nutrition/lifestyle advice aside that article alone changed the way I look at things in general drastically.

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                    herenow
                    last edited by herenow May 5, 2025, 1:24 AM May 5, 2025, 12:57 AM

                    I think this is everyone mentioned:
                    Haidut
                    Roddy
                    Brad
                    the Bailey's
                    Tom Cowan
                    Anthony Colpo
                    Michael Yeadon
                    Sasha Latypova
                    T3 Maxxi guy on twitter
                    Hitler ๐Ÿ˜ž
                    Dr Peter Rogers
                    Kathleen Stewart
                    Taylor Swift
                    Grimhood & Andra (couldn't find them online)
                    Paul Saladino
                    Robert Lufkin MD
                    Atkins
                    Stalin ๐Ÿ˜ž
                    Mao ๐Ÿ˜ž
                    T3uncoupled
                    Anabology
                    Michael Hudson (a perfect age 86 but you need to be in the market for a finance guru)

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                      Corngold @herenow
                      last edited by May 5, 2025, 2:55 AM

                      @herenow said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                      I think this is everyone mentioned:

                      You should also include Peat's bibliography which is probably over 100 authors/scientists and thousands of books and papers. Somebody posted the library link on here. My "guru" list was satire. There aren't gurus, or they're mostly scam artists. But there are teachers, experts, and explorers.

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                        PranaDeva @herenow
                        last edited by May 5, 2025, 5:04 AM

                        @herenow Peatbot!

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                          RayPeatFan @DKJoeAgain
                          last edited by May 5, 2025, 3:22 PM

                          @DKJoeAgain said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                          Regardless he changed my life with his analysis of William Blake.

                          Link to this analysis of William Blake, please.

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                            Rah1woot @RayPeatFan
                            last edited by May 5, 2025, 4:53 PM

                            @RayPeatFan

                            https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/william-blake.shtml

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                              Corngold @Corngold
                              last edited by May 5, 2025, 9:50 PM

                              @Corngold said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                              bibliography

                              this is it:
                              https://mega.nz/folder/V5RRnYZS#iNVzyR9zHWIsbQ4RD21iTw

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                                RayPeatFan @Rah1woot
                                last edited by May 6, 2025, 1:31 AM

                                @Rah1woot Thanks, my friend.

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                                  natureman @herenow
                                  last edited by May 6, 2025, 7:30 AM

                                  @herenow if you see Peat as a Guru you didn't understand him and should revisit his work and interviews. What he wanted is give you the ability to fend for yourself and never follow anyone.

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                                    A Former User @natureman
                                    last edited by May 6, 2025, 7:39 AM

                                    @natureman said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                                    @herenow if you see Peat as a Guru you didn't understand him and should revisit his work and interviews. What he wanted is give you the ability to fend for yourself and never follow anyone.

                                    You Can understand it and still not feel, think, or apply what you understood, chill

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                                      NoeticJuice @dapose
                                      last edited by NoeticJuice May 6, 2025, 12:04 PM May 6, 2025, 12:04 PM

                                      @dapose said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                                      We need to be painting and playing music and making art.

                                      I'd like to see more art here: Sketch thread

                                      "We must remember that the only instrument of investigation we possess is our mind . . . The quality and condition of the telescope govern the observation resulting from its use. If there is dust on our lens, we see dark spots in the heavens."

                                      ๐ŸŽง๐ŸŽถ24/7

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                                        herenow
                                        last edited by May 7, 2025, 12:32 AM

                                        I remember so clearly the day word spread that Ray Peat was eating oat bran. So it shall be written oats are safe and the community started eating oats. The new doctrine from mount Eugene carved out a starch exemption and at the time I would have said I'll never eat oats but I ended up eating oats.

                                        To me that's a guru but he's was different things to different people. I see some people find the word objectionable but it's sooo much fun to say. After a while you'll be saying it for no reason at all.

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                                          herenow @PranaDeva
                                          last edited by herenow May 7, 2025, 11:04 AM May 7, 2025, 12:38 AM

                                          @PranaDeva said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                                          @herenow Peatbot!

                                          It makes me a little sad but that's probably the future.

                                          Was Ray Peat as afraid of lawsuits as Peatbot? That's some disclaimer lol

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