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      GlucoseGal @Samyo
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      @Samyo The GAPS diet protocol can be as barebones as you need it to be. You can make a broth with beef bones or chicken bones, onions & garlic - then remove them post cooking. The gut lining renews after three days. You should be able to gently add in certain foods after a week or so.

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        Samyo @GlucoseGal
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        @GlucoseGal said in Suffering, getting worse:

        The GAPS diet protoco

        If its a gut lining issue then something from peat recommended foods is destroying it

        And i suspect its 1 these

        white sugar
        coffee
        milk

        since they are daily used

        I always suspect coffee makes my armpits sweat, made my beard hair grey too and the inflammation in beard areas on lower face

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          LetTheRedeemed @GreekDemiGod
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          @GreekDemiGod the carrot was an example of gut healing, it’s conditionally useful, and it probably accounted for 10% of my gut healing.

          Antibiotics and aspirin are by far more useful for gut healing.

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            GlucoseGal @Samyo
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            @Samyo I doubt milk is causing this, but you likely lack the enzymes to digest it at the point. Only from my own experience, I do better with sugars from honey rather than sugar its self. I find it inflaming. Hope some of this helps.

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              Samyo @GlucoseGal
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              @GlucoseGal said in Suffering, getting worse:

              ind it inflam

              Milk doesnt make make gassy or anything though.

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              • Hando-JinH
                Hando-Jin
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                sounds like gut issues bro. That's usually the cause of body odour.

                consider all the gut stuff others have recommended- antibiotics, raw carrot salad dressed with olive oil, charcoal etc

                gut problems can be caused by low thyroid too, something to keep in mind

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                  gg12 @Samyo
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                  @Samyo may as well drop nutrition.
                  Not worth the stress.
                  Orthorexia at its finest

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                    gg12 @Samyo
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                    @Samyo drop milk / dairy for a week

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                      Samyo @gg12
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                      @gg12 What else am i supposed to eat

                      My skin says no to veg,fruit,starch and makes me stink

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                        LucH @Samyo
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                        @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

                        what else is there outside of magnesium, cascara, ox bile, activated charcoal, milk of magnesia, B1, HCL, carrot salad, mushrooms, bamboo shoots?

                        Working on MMC for rééducation of a lazy bowel. So not a transcient effect.
                        And get rid of dysbiosis if required...

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                          Samyo @LucH
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                          @LucH said in Suffering, getting worse:

                          on MMC for rééducation of a lazy bowel. So not a transcient effect.
                          And get rid of dysbiosis if required...

                          so fasting?

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                            LucH @Samyo
                            last edited by LucH

                            @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

                            so fasting?

                            It could help but there is not single answer.
                            Opimized diet for less irritation and best border bross (intestines), inducing less inflammation. Help for calming down,
                            Antibiotics and MMC help,
                            Adapted probiotics at the end.
                            Help for stress.

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                              Samyo @LucH
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                              @LucH said in Suffering, getting worse:

                              It could help but there is not single answer.
                              Opimized diet for less irritation and best border.bross (interstines), inducing less inflammation. Help for calming down,
                              Antibiotics and MMC help,
                              Adapred probiotics at the end.
                              Help for stress.

                              Idk what causes irritation

                              because I get opposite reactions

                              Constipation good skin so that means zero irritation? > no fiber

                              Bowel movements = bad skin = irritation > fiber

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                                LucH @Samyo
                                last edited by LucH

                                @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

                                Idk what causes irritation

                                Not the right question at the very first level, everything or nearly all is going to irritate.
                                Need to be developed Not now: with phone.

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                                  heyman
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                                  The milk diet helped me tremendously. Try to get the most unadulterated milk you can find. Become a little friendly with a farmer helps.

                                  Eggs, milk, meat (some digest raw better), fruit is easy to digest foods in my opinion. I do think there is some energetic thing with foods that are packaged. These corporations wants us dead and sick just the name on product has some energy to it.

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                                    Samyo @heyman
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                                    @heyman Eggs and meat make my armpits smell of sulphur

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                                    • LucHL
                                      LucH
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                                      @Samyo
                                      *) Key information on SIBO/SIFO

                                      • SIBO, when your health problems come from the small intestine, Part 1: Understanding and diagnosing (In French; translator needed)
                                        https://www.lanutrition-sante.ch/le-sibo-quand-vos-problemes-de-sante-viennent-de-lintestin-grele-partie-1-comprendre-et-diagnostiquer/
                                        *) SIBO : l’invasion des mauvaises bactéries dans votre intestin
                                        SIBO: Invasion of bad bacteria in your intestine
                                        https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1131-sibo-pullulation-bacterienne#11611
                                        => Key ideas
                                      • The microbiota is the center of our immunity.
                                      • If you regularly suffer from bloating, belching, flatulence, gastric reflux, abdominal pain and/or diarrhea, or even unexplained fatigue, most of these disorders come from the small intestine where there is an excess bacteria (SIBO).
                                        There is a close link between bacterial overgrowth and celiac disease (irritable bowel or IBS).
                                      • SIBO, FODMAP, gluten sensitivity, lactose intolerance, etc. contribute to low-grade inflammation of the intestinal mucosa. However, low-grade inflammation weakens intestinal tightness (leaky gut). This opens the door to the autoimmune reaction.
                                      • Understand the process that leads to intestinal permeability: ---
                                        X
                                        How to deal with a recently installed SIBO / SIFO
                                        It is an abnormal proliferation, bacterial and / or fungal, in the small intestine, causing multiple digestive and extra-digestive symptoms. Problems of intestinal hyperpermeability may be associated with this. When you have a methane sibo, the stagnation of materials in the large bowel + gas causes distensions that the bowel is not designed to handle.
                                        Basis of treatment – The Sibo is recently installed.
                                        The symptoms are less than a year old. We assume a low-noise bacterial-sounding IBS (IBS = Intestinal Bacterial Syndrome). Therefore we can ignore a biofilm disruptor as a precursor to the treatment. But we need a coordinated approach against excess intestinal bacteria: ration – stun – eradicate.
                                        Strategy to attack bacterial biofilm Intestinal peristalsis (MMC) will be facilitated with a prokinetic: for example with Résolor 0.5 mg. Resolor will boost MMC in phase 3 (regular activity phase), when we are in the inter-digestive period, in order to evacuate waste. This must be done every night in order to achieve 100% evacuation. So Sibo will no longer be able to develop. The ideal is to start a 12-hour fast after the evening meal and to observe an inter-digestive space of 5 hours between each meal in order to allow the MMC to do its work also during the day.
                                        Example of Siebecker Treatment Protocol (Pimentel 2006): https://servimg.com/view/19831774/635
                                        Treatment
                                        • Diet oriented, if desired, to facilitate the assimilation of macronutrients. This restrictive diet is poor in fermentable foods but will be limited in time, taking into account the terrain (intolerances and state of the digestive system).
                                        • Antimicrobial treatment (antibiotics or plants) adapted to the type of SIBO/SIFO (hydrogen or methane). For example, I used these essential oils: Ceylon Cinnamon, Clove, Mountain Savory and Lemon EO. Peppermint EO, with ginger and fennel. Oregano EO. Some people use berberine successfully.
                                        NB: EOs are preferably entero-protected (soft gels) in order to reach the 2nd part of the colon and to avoid attack on the intestinal mucosa.
                                        • Prokinetics: I used Resolor 0.5 mg. We must prevent stagnation of faeces.
                                        • Supply of useful nutrients (intestinal tightness / against leaky gut) via drink (water), with L-glutamine kyowa 15-20 gr. To compensate for the excitatory effect of glutamine, I use glycine (hydrolyzed collagen) and magnesium. But not only.
                                        • Support digestion processes and the integrity of the intestinal wall with useful nutrients. For example lipase enzymes, betaine HCL. I used other nutrients to facilitate intestinal sealing (glutamine, butyrate). No glutamine when suffering from candidiasis (candida albicans) because it feeds the fungus.
                                        • A reduction in factors that aggravate SIBO/SIFO such as stress or certain medications. NB: Useful information: Dr Marc Pimentel, + Dr Bella Lindemans, Dr Nirala Jacobi. D’Oro (in French).
                                        NB: I can give a link for Dr. D’Oro site with more details if you want more information.
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                                      • Hando-JinH
                                        Hando-Jin @Samyo
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                                        @Samyo

                                        things that are easy to digest- milk, cheese, fruit juices, gelatin, certain ice creams.

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                                          Samyo @Hando-Jin
                                          last edited by Samyo

                                          @Hando-Jin said in Suffering, getting worse:

                                          ngs that are easy to digest- milk, cheese, fruit juices, gelatin, certain ice creams.

                                          Ok but you know that wont make me have bowel movements? they will come out like bristol chart 1 from that.

                                          I can digest fiber easy. But that doesnt mean I will be symptom free. E.g smelly body odor, and skin races/inflammation

                                          Beef, eggs also easily digestable, yet make my armpits smell

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                                          • peatolishP
                                            peatolish @Samyo
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                                            @Samyo everything is pointing to either SIBO or gut dysbiosis. If it's the latter I'd recommend you to look into a fecal microbiota transplant.

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