Dandruff or scalp irritation? Try BLOO.
Yes, but its downstream effects are inhibiting T production.
I wonder if Ray’s suggestion to use Pregnenalone to safeguard the gonads would work to preserve their steroidogenic potential even in the presence of high levels of circulating androgens?
And if that did work, perhaps using topical Pregnenalone, k2, and caffeine on the scrotal skin would be even more effective.
I have the study.
"Anabolic" effects of methandienone in men undergoing athletic training
G.R Hervey October 1976, Published in The Lancet
100 mg Dbol per diem for 6 weeks. LH, FSH had no statistically significant decline, but testosterone fell by about half. That suggests that there is primary transient hypogonadism because there is enough LH, FSH in the blood but the testicles are not producing enough testosterone. That leads me to think that there is some negative feedback directly in the testicles.
It could also be that there is excessive conversion to estrogen, but I think the testicles are also being inhibited.
@Milchkanne I injected some 8 month old peptides that were sitting in my fridge. Didn’t get any injection site reactions but felt extremely weird after. Panic attack the next day and low blood pressure. Would not recommend
Interesting take. Thanks for the info. But what about nicotine then? I found a company selling wood toothpicks soaked in 3mg nicotine. Could be interesting.
Can you link to any studies showing that 500-600mg Niacinamide daily caused any insulin resistance? IIRC that amount of niacinamide can increase NAD+ levels by up to 24x, which I think you're suggesting might be excessive.
@gg12 if you have camu camu powder and Niacinamide I would go with those
@16charactersitis I don't see any scenario in which getting more vitamin D and vitamin C (the latter from whole food sources, and the former ideally from light) would be a bad thing. I'm not sure why you're taking a bacteriophage or what your context is but I was just suggesting not to overlook the basics. Glycine is also anti-viral btw.
There are more advanced immune-boosting substances like adamantane, but the basics should be met first.
Do you think TMG is necessary if eating 4 eggs + 1 oz liver per day + meat (methionine) totaling around 1000 mg choline per day?
@16charactersitis Vitamin D is antiviral, so it vitamin C. Why not start there?
Well, I think we need to keep in mind that Ray was probably talking about oral or transdermal testosterone, not injectable.
But, ya you could also try the idea labs product Pansterone orally or transdermally. People have reported it boosted their T levels.
@ooopilled Deca is highly suppressive but I don't think it would affect 5AR. Given your test levels are very low I don't think there's any reason to think 5AR is affected. If for example you had normal T but low DHT symptoms then there might be some reason to suspect a problem with 5AR
Proviron Summary of Product Characteristics
Looks like it's still being manufactured and is used in the middle east.
@sushi_is_cringe Sounds like a W for DHT
@ooopilled Yes, androsterone is an AI and converts to DHT. I think 3-4mg inhibited aromatase by 90%. @haidut had favorable lab results posted on the RP forum by using transdermal Andro in ethanol. I would assume that oral dissolved in tocopherols would work too, though
@ooopilled ya I think that’s true especially considering how low your T is.
Two things that come into my mind is to try transdermal Pregnenalone and vitamin K on the scrotum
And/Or eating up to 150 grams carbs each day from honey.
Actually I think you would highly benefit from the oral medication Proviron. It is a non-hepatotoxic DHT derivative. Specifically it is 1-alpha methyl DHT. It is also a pharmaceutical in Germany manufactured by Bayer.
It can increase libido, decrease body fat, oppose estrogen, increase reproductive health.
If you want the mental effects, why don’t you try oral Pregnenalone and DHT?
@ooopilled DHT is inactivated in skeletal muscle by 3A-HSD whereas testosterone is not to the same degree. So would be less anabolic without T. That's why oral anabolics like Anavar and Adrol have modifications in the A-ring to precent 3A-HSD from acting on them
@anib Very interesting stack. I can't imagine anyone actually using all of these simultaneously without ending up in the hospital after a few weeks.
I take it that by "masterolone", you meant "mesterolone" AKA Proviron.
I'm also interested in Bromocriptine for dopamine agonism; I've heard Pramipexole can give people really bad addictions and hard withdrawal.
I also see you make no mention of Racetams in your stack; they can be useful for those with cognitive intensive demands like students. I know according to orthodox RP thinking, increasing choline might not be that great, but the racetams do seem to work for people.
Putting this all into an actually responsible stack that doesn't involve combining "uppers" and "downers" in the same day like Propranolol and Clen in the same day, this is what I would personally think is a template:
Early AM: Caffeine, 2.5 mg Bromocriptine, 25 mg Proviron, TTFD Thiamine
Mid AM: 3 mg Rauwolsine (Yohimbine derivative), 8 mcg T3
Early PM: 100 mg Phenylpiracetam, 25 mg Proviron, Caffeine
Mid PM: 8 mcg T3, B-complex
@bluemen Big balls is better