Dandruff or scalp irritation? Try BLOO.
@GlucoseOrBust Good luck on your phone call. And yes, I can see Stephens thinking very highly of this one simple sugar. Maybe rightfully so! But to say it cannot do harm... especially considering what we've just seen DanDare go through... that's where it doesn't add up (to me).
Again, best of luck; let us know how it goes.
One thing that gives me pause is that this all rides on the word of Dr. Stephens (and those participating). And Stephens doesn't strike me as a bad guy, but I do wonder if he is naive in some ways. I forget which video I saw of him where he essentially says "There is no possible way glucose can be harmful to you".
While I can appreciate that perhaps he has seen some incredibly positive results, that is a very bold claim. Especially considering some reports I've seen from the relatively small number of accounts I'm following in regards to this protocol. (The most pertinent example is someone on RPF who is experiencing intense dental pain basically immediately upon beginning this protocol.)
All of that is to say: if, in my limited purview, I am seeing that report (and others of less significant harm/setbacks), how can Stephens say there is no way it can be harmful?
@gentlepotato Thank you for sharing all this. What experience you have! I am glad you are finding such benefits from the glucose. Interestingly that previously your thyroid and liver healed, but your fatigue did not. It's very encouraging to hear that it is showing signs of improving on this glucose therapy.
@S-Holmes While I am sure it is not always fun retracing chronic symptoms, I am glad you are feeling optimistic. And it is great to hear about your energy level. Good on you for listening to your body, and I hope the symptoms mean it is headed on a journey toward healing. As you say, time will tell. Thanks for the update, and continued good luck!
Congratulations on your healing! And do you have a specific thread that captures your journey well? I found lots of posts from you on RPF (including one in a "Successful Peaters" thread), but haven't found the full story. I can pick up from context and what you've already shared that it your approach is very "Peaty"
(Searching for you also led me to a thread about Matt Stone which I found very interesting... I didn't know what he was up to these days)
Would it be fair for me to guess, with your experience, that you would be more favorable towards white table sugar than dextrose? What's your view on this whole glucose-loading idea?
@Peatful Your perspective makes sense. And I agree that it may be hard to interpret. But I think it would be good to have the data anyway just to try to put puzzle pieces together.
What condition(s) did you fully heal and what was your approach (I know you say food sugars but I'm curious on the details)? Have you shared your story anywhere?
@gentlepotato That is very interesting. Is it the case that your levels hardly spike back on regular carbs too? Or is it only on this glucose protocol that the levels quickly go back to fasting levels or reactive hypo?
@gentlepotato I am not tracking glucose levels, but I will be very curious to see what yours are. I've seen anecdotal reports (I think it was on RPF) that people's BG levels are dropping back down to normal relatively quickly after doses, and that some people have brought their average BG levels down using this protocol, but I think it would be very interesting to see it in actual CGM data.
Per Stephens, the idea is that this should significantly improve your ability to handle glucose and insulin sensitivity, but that is kind of an unverified claim at this point.
CGM data will be interesting.
Thanks for sharing this. Good video. I haven't read Grant's book, but now I probably won't. Their review of Grant's book definitely provides a lot of evidence that Vitamin A deficiency is real and that it can be incredibly harmful. This even resonates with the studies conducted by Professor Hale and cited by Weston A Price. I was discussing these on Genereux's forum a few months ago and no one there convinced me that those studies couldn't have truly been showing Vitamin A deficiencies corrected by adding back in Vitamin A (via CLO or green pasture).
Anyway, good video from Fave and Feldman.
Low VA still intrigues me, but I definitely agree with Feldman and Fave that improvements that some see on the diet could be from factors other than VA. And they rightly call out the potential danger in "if I feel bad, it's detox... if I feel good, it's working"
@Ben Thank you for the comprehensive response. And I do agree, time will tell for this. And like you mention, it is good to keep in mind that even in Stephens' protocol, it is a temporary (6-month) treatment, not a new lifestyle.
Here's to continued energy and life quality and hopefully reduced negatives.
Very interesting that your hair up top is thinning more but your body hair and nails are growing more.
I hope your ailments do resolve!
I've been following this thread and several on RPF on this topic.
On RPF, there have been a couple recent negative experiences and one or two people have stopped the protocol. But there have been a lot of positive reports too and generally a lot of optimism around and embracing of the protocol.
It seems here there is largely an openness, despite reasonable skepticism and questioning of how it would work and why it would be better than loading up on starch or white sugar loading.
I have been doing something close to the protocol for 2-3 weeks now; nothing major to report good or bad.
Does anyone here have a good summary of benefits / drawbacks you've felt from the protocol? I know several are doing it (@S-Holmes @evan-hinkle @CrumblingCookie @Jaffe @happyhanneke @Ben, maybe others )
@Jaffe Agreed. Tattling on a man whose personality and dietary strategy they don't like to try to destroy his livelihood. Because an internet forum changed course to promote that dietary strategy.
@ThinPicking In what way is it more nuanced?
I read that post but don't really understand the basis of the complaint. That Smith is endangering children? It reads to me like a personal attempt to destroy Smith's livelihood.
This same logic from that post could be used to go after someone who promotes discarding "essential fatty acid" PUFAs or anything else.
I suppose the board will be able to handle it however they feel appropriate but I disagree strongly with the idea of going after someone's license over dietary disagreements such as this.
@Matt1951 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
There is going to be a Medical Board hearing for Dr. Smith May 9. I will post the results.
What is your goal for the complaint you filed with the board? And what is the basis of the complaint?
@Jakeandpace How long were you doing Low Vitamin A?
Thanks for sharing. Came here from Brad's Twitter post about it
@epstein-jeffery I've been reading up on it recently too. Similarly intrigued. There are some really good discourses on it on Grant Generoux's forum. Here's one example of someone bringing up their skepticism toward Low-A.
https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/why-i-dont-think-this-is-a-legit-theory-anymore/
And this article and super long comment thread on this post from 2018 is super long and pretty interesting.
https://180degreehealth.com/vitamin-vitamin-villain/
These are more specifically related to Vitamin A as toxin as opposed to explicitly "Toxic Bile Theory". But lots of good stuff to chew on through the conversations.
@ThinPicking I see a lot of those responses. It seems like those people (Goeddeke, Williford) are discussing what Bilbo is bringing up. Hard to tell for sure without his account/tweets active. But that seems like a decent legit discussion, which is good to see.