Peaty Video Games?
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What video games do you guys enjoy if you play? Videogames can be highly dopaminergic and anti-serotonin, if they encourage creativity and avoid too much routine. Which video games align with Ray Peat's principles or would be considered Peat approved. Some that come to mind are Minecraft and the Portal series.
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I'd like to recommend you find a bright eyed girl (your existing one will do) and play a bit of It Takes Two together. Eat/drink something bioenergetic. Play a little more. Shoot the shit about its theme and context.
If you get bored or don't like it. Beat her at Micro Machines 4. Or take it on the chin.
etc.
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@ThinPicking Good recommendation. Local multiplayer games have sadly been rejected and abandoned by game studios. Some of the best gaming experiences I’ve had were with good friends in the same room. Online doesn’t even feel remotely the same.
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@oliveoil said in Peaty Video Games?:
Some of the best gaming experiences I’ve had were with good friends in the same room.
I agree there is an important social component of a good game (whether video or not). Defeating a disembodied online opponent is not very satisfying.
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For me, a game must be interesting and challenging. I like to anticipate the possibility of winning as well as losing.
A game can become less interesting over time. In a sense, it becomes stale and I begrudging play for some other reason. I think the term 'begrudging play' is an oxymoron.
On another forum, @Mauritio had a signature line "[The] excitedly expectant state of consciousness of a child on Christmas morning is a model of the way the mind should function throughout life." This describes the way to approach a game.
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There have been two similar threads earlier this year on the forum. Many people mentioned Minecraft as it gives much room and stimulus for creativity.
My feeling is that playing a variety of distinct games is advantageous. Maybe some games like Blitz Chess is too stressful? I used to stress when I played WC3 as things had to happen quickly. Playing HOMM which is a turn-based game was far more comfortable. The music and atmosphere is also more delightful than in other games.
I suspect that crossword puzzles are good as reflecting on linguistics tends to improve our ability to apply logic.
I would also think that physical games like volleyball and badminton are probably healthier and more enjoyable than video games. -
I remember Ray mentioning the better the reflexes of an organism, the more intelligent you are generally.
I also remember this one video of some zoomers robbing an asian guy, with one of them jumping over the counter top to steal things. The asian guy automatically just got a knife and started stabbing him, then dragged him outside. Someone asked the asian guy on a Q&A how he remained calm and quick during that situation and he said something akin to "This sounds a bit weird but the muscle memory of team fighting in League of Legends allowed me to know what I'm doing and not panic".
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@izkrov I remember reading in At Our Wits' End that reflexes and IQ are correlated. Good reflexes are a sign of exemplary brain and nerve function. Reflexes correlate strongly with other cognitive functions. Reflexes have been declining since the 19th century. It is one of the earliest intelligence tests still in use.
I think that games like DOTA and LOL are fine, and better than most games.
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I enjoy playing Sea of Thieves, it allows me to fulfill the pirate fantasy I've had since I was a boy. Large open world game, full of the spirit of adventure that any pirate game should have. It's perhaps the only successful pirate game ever made which classifies it within its own genre. It's too bad they don't have any serious competitors as this would add pressure on the developers to innovate more within their game, regardless they are still doing a good job.
Great game with lots of things to do and plenty of room for creativity. It's still cartoonish and goofy while having amazing graphics that make the visual experience alone very satisfying. Players are always coming up with new ways to play the game and cause trouble on the seas. Some of the interactions can be so good, one of the games that has had me laughing the most.
It's also different from all other FPS games in the sense that no matter where your bullet hits the enemy character, it will always do the same amount of damage, which adds to the cartoonish aspect of it.
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i find challenging action and fighting games really thrilling and satisfying. but i find if my mood isn't well, no game is really enjoyable, which probably relates to overall health.
some of the most fun i've had is entering semi-flow states playing competitive fighting games against other players, at which point playing at a high level feels effortless and even losses are fun. sadly it's really rare for me, and i instead end up getting frustrated with myself for losing or misplaying. i've been chasing that rabbit for a while now.
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Detroit: Become Human, Super heavy narrative game with alot of Action and QTEs, made by the same team that did Heavy Rain if that tells you something.
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I think a good mixture of games is helpful and I’d put them into these categories.
Problem solving and adventure games (think god of war, uncharted etc),
world building creativity games like mincecraft and terraria and
first person shooters or fast twitch games like COD and Rocket league.
I think a selection of these types of games are best, just play what feels right.
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What about old school games gameboy
snes sega tetris? -
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I’ve found first person shooters can quickly initiate a flow state if a person really focuses in. I’ve been studying Dr. Peats work for nearly 10 years now and I don’t think I have ever heard him discuss flow states.
Has he or anyone adjacent to him ever talked about video games or flow states? I feel like I’ve listened to most if not all his (and probably Haidut’s) radio interviews but I don’t think I have heard it mentioned.
I enjoy video games sometimes but I am wary of them as a waste of time and a damager of eye balls.
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@Sugarnotsnow
Yeah Crossy road works when I am hyperactive and stressed. Play 5 mins and uninstall
Stardew valley it's addictive as hell. It's a farming game (fishing, animals, veggies) combined with combat and discovery and craft of weapons, armor. I played for hours on my phone during winter and I didn't get drained since you produce staff in the game. It's the only one that kept my attention. Rest is garbage pay2win.
Most important: It doesn't make me rage .
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I know this is probably considered the dark ages, but i was firmly a Red Alert addict. The word addict i guess gives away my fairly unhealthy connection with it, but it did supply me with a peaty experience of joyful anticipation, never adrenaline.
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Mario 64 and similar games like Banjo-Kazooie and Mario Odyssey. The Analyze and Optimize guys even posted a study using an FPS vs Super Mario 64 with people in a retirement home on brain health I think.
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