It's a little known fact that dentistry is nothing more than a giant fucking meme.[1] Weston Price understood this back in the 30s: you only need to look at what people eat to tell if their teeth, dental arches and overall health are on point.[2] The Swiss of remote villages lost in the mountains have a 0.3% incidence of caries and they barely brush their teeth, whereas nearby villages that adopted the modern diet and lifestyle had much worse dental health, with sometimes 100 times more cavities.
So, provided that you brush from time to time (and is that even really necessary?), you should not encounter a single dentist in your life. And the author of this thread knows about this: he didn’t go to the dentist for 8 whole years. He returned once just to make sure, and everything was great (except he needed a little floss).
Now, as they still need money to survive, dentists will meme you into removing your wisdom teeth, which is a new thing that simply didn’t happen before and has tons of little bad consequences[3]. However, if you have terrible dental health, you’ll probably need to watch your wisdom teeth carefully, as they can trigger infections.
In short, the secret to dental health is in your diet and nowhere else.
The diet for good dental health
Let’s start with the first dental meme: sugar.
Oh noooooo, you can’t eat sugar your teeth will rot nooooo!!!
This is what most people believe, and what many dentists believe too.
Caries are a “bacterially generated disease”.[7] Bad bacteria in your teeth will eat fermented sugar sitting in your mouth in order to develop. Much like in diabetes, it does not mean that sugar is responsible for the problem – but, much like in diabetic cell metabolism, if you have bad bacteria populating your teeth, you’ll be feeding them by eating sugar, particularly sucrose. So you have to make sure the immune system of your teeth works properly… and also to avoid constantly getting sucrose by your teeth, which implies not sipping on fruit juices all day long. The saliva has to do its work and having the sugary stuff within a meal and not between meals is supposedly a good way to prevent problems.
What’s causing bad bacteria to develop seem to be mostly 2 things: bad gut flora and nutrient deficiency.
Bad gut flora can disturb, among other things, the pH of your intestinal tract and lower the bacterial defenses of your teeth. This allows for harmful bacteria to develop.
The author of this thread would know about this: he got the first 2 cavities of his life past-25yo in the 2 back molars after 6 months of low-intensity acid reflux, which he talked about in another thread (as soon as the reflux went away, all dental problems were gone).
So gut health is a key factor. A peaty, fruit sugar-focused diet (for stomach pH) with unpasturized dairy (for gut microbiome [4,5]) should bring about a healthy gut flora.
While "gut health" is definitely a vague and intangible concept for the most part, we can point to some notable phenomenon, notably shortcomings in the methylation process, bringing about excess histamines causing gut problems, and thus teeth cavities or mouth ulcers. This is why, unsurprisingly, supplementation in B vitamins greatly attenuates mouth ulcers recurrence.[14]
Nutrient deficiency, notably in fat-soluble vitamins A, D and K2 (MK-4) found in meat, dairy and fish is also a main culprit. They are required by the immune system of your teeth to function. That is arguably why a vegan diet is detrimental to dental health.[6]
Magnesium, calcium and vitamin D work together for the maintenance of bone density.
Collagen (glycine especially), vitamin C also play a major role in dental health.[8,9,13]
Basically make sure you’re getting all of your nutrients.
When you’re under attack
If you feel increased sensibility in your teeth (to sugar, cold or hot), this means you’re being attacked. Few pointers that could work to nuke the bad bastards eating on your enamel, remineralize your teeth and regrow your gum.
- Rinse after eating.
- Use a straw to drink any sugary stuff (you’ll have to renounce your heterosexuality until teeth improve).
- Oil pulling with coconut oil, a traditional ayurvedic remedy which seems to work. [10]
- Old traditional mouthwash with essential oils can possibly help.[12]
Antibiotics could work too (Unsure about that)- Xylitol, a unique 5-carbon sugar alcohol, powerful anti-bacterial, is available to chew in gum form (must be pure xylitol, no sorbitol or any other sugar). [11a]
- Gum soaked in K2/D3/calcium, an old-school remedy.[11b]
- Methylene blue can also work, also seems to help whiten teeth.
- Chewing mastic gum is proven to kick out the bad bacteria out of your mouth and helps with remineralization plaque and gingivitis
(http://dx.doi.org/10.1902/jop.2003.74.4.501 , https://doi.org/10.2319/122205-455r.1 , https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/doi/full/10.5555/20093184339).
- Chewing cloves can help just as well, it's a powerful antibiotic and potential mood uplifter (from @ah): "Ill keep chewing/swishing until the saliva is too much and I have to spit it out"
- Homemade toothpaste : coconut oil, sodium bicarbonate and some essential oil of your chosing (like mint) (from @Martiño): "heat the coconut oil if it's in solid state, once its liquid, add sodium bicarbonate and if you want mint essential oil to give it that classic freshness."
Questions
I am definitely not an expert on this topic, so feel free to correct me.
What do you guys think?
Have you seen worsened dental health with a sucrose-rich diet?
What are some of your techniques to remineralize?
References
- https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/the-trouble-with-dentistry/586039/
- The Weston Price book come on
- https://doi.org/10.2105%2FAJPH.2006.100271
- https://doi.org/10.3390/nu12051468
- https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ctim.2019.102196
- https://doi.org/10.1111/cdoe.12498
- https://doi.org/10.3389/froh.2021.657518
- https://doi.org/10.2741/E281
- https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1749-6632.1987.tb23772.x
- https://doi.org/10.1016/j.heliyon.2020.e04789
11a. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00253-020-10708-7
11b. https://twitter.com/T3MaxxiAlt/status/1732654889753608591
- Like this one: https://uncleharrys.com/products/miracle-mouthwash
- https://doi.org/10.1177/00220345750540054001
- https://doi.org/10.21037/apm-21-1064
Case studies
@Evolutionarily said in The Dental Care Thread:
For anyone who has a dental issue they are trying to fix holistically rather than the dental route, I have stumbled upon a regimen which definitely works, the bads news is I don't know which one is doing the work or if they are synergistic (likely they are but also likely just 1 or 2 of these things would have sufficed).
This was my post a month ago: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/1492/tips-for-naturally-healing-a-dental-pocket-cavity
What I did:
-Coconut oil pulling in morning (just swish in mouth for 2-5 mins whilst im preparing breakfast)
-Xylitol gum (I found one with good ingredients; and I spit out the first big load of flavour/etc)
-Chewing cloves
-Chewing Mastic gum
-Salt water swish and gargle 3-4 times per day and after food
-In the evening black seed oil pulling (again nothing crazy; few mins of swishing it around focusing on the tooth I was having issues with).
-5mg of K2 MK4 per day
-Daily Flossing, Interdental brushes, and teeth brushing
Not only did the above regimen appear to have fixed my issue; it also cleared my tongue dramatically so it's perfectly pink in the morning now, and I would always have one or two small bits of bleeding when flossing on specific teeth, just a little bit, but I realized writing this that has 100% gone now too.
makes you more handsome.