@ah

GC Tooth Mousse
active ingredient is CPP-ACP (Recaldent), a complex formed from casein and calcium/phosphate ions in an ideal ratio to remineralise teeth

In principle it's a good idea, too bad for the additives.

@CurmudgeonApple said in The Dental Care Thread:

i would imagine that pine tar/resin based chewing gums might be quite effective. Pine tars and resins can actually prevent the ability for cells to produce abnormally e.g mast cell degranulation(gum swelling etc), so not as basic in function as a regular antifungal/bacterial, which means there is little chance that anaerobic gram negative bacteria can become resistant to it

Good idea!

On your first point I agree statistical significance can be meaningless but in that first study the effect of mastic gum on S. Mutans alone (not on protectory lactobacilli) is pretty dramatic.

@JulofEnoch said in The Dental Care Thread:

Everyone should read Price, not just N&PD but his other works as well. He really was such a passionate researcher- I don't think American dentistry has had a mind like his since he passed.

Excellent stuff, thanks for posting, I didn't know that one!

@Evolutionarily said in The Dental Care Thread:

This was my post a month ago: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/1492/tips-for-naturally-healing-a-dental-pocket-cavity

What I did:
-Coconut oil pulling in morning (just swish in mouth for 2-5 mins whilst im preparing breakfast)
-Xylitol gum (I found one with good ingredients; and I spit out the first big load of flavour/etc)
-Chewing cloves
-Chewing Mastic gum
-Salt water swish and gargle 3-4 times per day and after food
-In the evening black seed oil pulling (again nothing crazy; few mins of swishing it around focusing on the tooth I was having issues with).
-5mg of K2 MK4 per day
-Daily Flossing, Interdental brushes, and teeth brushing

Good job!

@the-MOUSE in The Dental Care Thread:
Seems good. Invoking spit response is definitely impressive lol

As someone who brushes teeth once a day with no toothpaste and has never had teeth problems once, I would like to reiterate that if you get teeth and mouth problems it's likely a consequence of other deficiencies (vitamin C, A, K2, D, B vitamins, etc.). Resolving the symptom won't help it.
... Actually scratch that: I had my first cavity when I had harsh episodes of debilitating acid reflux past 25yo. I'm still investigating but my main theory is that the bottom of the problem seems to be a shortcoming in the methylation process (essentially some B vitamins deficiency).

@hwisdom lmao at this fucking thread, good original post though

Very good questions! I have been curious about this topic myself.

@incel_rapist This is fake, I mean just look at the numbers.

Higher metabolism means faster digestion, means more poopin'. Optimal poop number should be 2 to 4 poops a day, like one meal one poop.

@Norwegian-Mugabe Pooping 6 times a day is impressive, you must have a very high calorie count!

On poop consistency, I have been wondering if clean poop means optimal digestion and nutrient absorption. It may be, it may be not.

I mean we could potentially draw a lot of information looking at several poop parameters: texture, mass, cleanliness, smell, etc.
Same goes for urine: according to Ray, a foamy urine is a sign of liver detoxification, indicating a stress state, apparently. I have foamy urine sometimes and I discovered a potassium deficiency lately, so I wonder if it has to do with the kidney function too.

I wish poop science existed. We need to go back to simpler heuristic like this: temp, pulse, poop, urine, using a magnifying glass to look at teeth, etc.

@GreekDemiGod They don't eat enough calories, not enough proteins, have a high fiber content which triggers gut inflammation and lack essential vitamins and minerals. Hence they get skinny fat and basically depressed because of low-energy and endotoxins.

Placebo is not real.

Mewing is just default tongue posture when you don't mouth-breath and have normal bone structure.

Less PUFA makes your skin thicker, more youthful. See the !Kung San faces, who consumes a lot of omega-6 (incredibly riddled from a young age).

Upregulating thyroid and constant adequate carbs fix stress state and chronic inflammation ; the infmaous "dark circles" under the eyes seem to be a marker of this. Most vegans have horrible dark circles; mines are gone after a few months of peating.

Less gut inflammation means less skin problems.

Also less lean mass depletion from increased carbs consumption, you should look more muscular with the same amount of efforts.

So I believe we can say that real peating makes you more handsome.

Blood work. A great tool for diagnosis. I think it's important, given the extraordinary shyness of the average doctor, to have a basic knowledge of blood markers and their meanings.

If your weird dietary habits are backed by great blood works, you have skin in the game and everybody in the orthorexic world respects you.

In France you can ask a lab to do them without a prescription. For the items listed below it should cost about 150€. I don't know about other countries.

The list

(Secondary markers are in italics)

Blood glucose :

• HbA1c
• Fasting insuline
• Glycemia -- ideally 90mg/dL [https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-017-08498-6]

Thyroid :

• TSH -- ideally about 1.0 or under (although you can still be hypothyroidic with a normal TSH)
• PTH
• T3
• T4
• Reverse T3 (inactive T3)

Testosterone:

• Blood testosterone -- should be more than 500
• Free testosterone -- should be high
• SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globuline)

Kidney :

• Creatinine
• BUN (Blood Urea Nitrogen) -- BUN:creatinine ratio should be low

Electrolytes (ionogramme sanguin en français) :

• Sodium
• Potassium -- if low, might indicate poor kidney function
• Calcium
• Magnesium
• Chloride
• Bicarbonate (CO2) -- indicator of dysfunction in the kidney or lung

Liver:

• Gamma Glutamyl Transferase (GGT)
• Bilirubin
• Albumin
• Alkaline phosphatase (ALP)
• Aspartate amino transferase (AST)
• Alanine amino transferase (ALT)

Vitamins :

• Vitamin D(-25)
• Homocystein -- good marker of vitamin B12 levels and inflammation

Lipids :

• LDL -- likely a poor predictor of cardiovascular health if you aren't PUFA-filled
• VLDL
• HDL-C
• HDL-P
• Total cholesterol
• Triglycerides -- triglycerides:HDL-C ratio is an indicator of insulin sensiblity (lower is better)

Hormones :

• Cortisol -- unsure, as it may not even be a reliable marker [https://doi.org/10.1210/jc.2002-020048]
• DHEAS -- good adrenal gland indicator -- cortisol:DHEAS ratio is a good stress indicator, should ideally be under 0.3 [https://doi.org/10.1530/EJE-10-0299]
• Prolactin -- good general inflammation marker
• LH -- should be low
• FSH -- should be low
• DHT
• Estradiol

Iron :

• Ferritin
• Iron saturation

Inflammation and allergies :

• C-Reactive Protein (CRP) -- good general marker of inflammation [https://doi.org/10.1074/jbc.R400025200]
• IgA antibodies -- if elevated, means you might have problem with gluten or casein
• IgE antibodies -- if elevated, means you might have problem with casein

What should I add to the list ?
Also if somebody has Chris Masterjohn's substack, maybe they could give us some information on the actual appropriate ranges for various vitamins and hormones: https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/nutrient-targets

There's definitely something to wearing a good fragrance. But talking about pheromones, an alternative path would be stinkmaxxing. Not using soap, maintaining a good metabolism and a good hormonal profile, exercizing, etc. should all contribute to create a strong, smellable aura of manliness around you. You can also cheat your way into this:

Who here /stinkmaxxing/ ?

Good luck in your endeavour.

I would be surprised if height wasn't closely related to bone density. You can bonedensitymaxx with insane amounts of K2 (MK-4), at least according to MyFitnessFeelings on Twitter. I'm talking 12mg to 18mg of K2 daily if what he says his true. His tweet : https://twitter.com/fitnessfeelingz/status/1745910852593562053

On a side note, it should be noted that tall women are actually pretty approachable because most men don't even try (I'm europoor though, so I don't know about ameribroads). You should find an excuse to lift them from the floor playfully... I know it's gay but gay venues are full of approchable tall women...

@Harlock In Europe you can get a year-round supply from https://mastic.gr/
I don't know about elsewhere though.
@Martiño Great job!
@enoch Nice!
@ah Didn't know about cloves!
@jhp Yeah pure xylitol is best!

@brad Skin in the game, excellent idea! Saladino would be proud

Important addition: chewing mastic gum is proven to kick out the bad bacteria out of your mouth. It can also helps with remineralization plaque and gingivitis
(http://dx.doi.org/10.1902/jop.2003.74.4.501 , https://doi.org/10.2319/122205-455r.1 , https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/doi/full/10.5555/20093184339).

@fd
Get your total calories checked for a few days in https://cronometer.com/
Check pulse (aim for 70+ at first), temperature, and usual symptoms you described.
The first step of upping your metabolism is increasing your caloric intake. Also more vitamin-rich foods (liver, dank seafood, etc.) because this will increase your needs as well.
Your hormonal levels aren't gonna magically restore if you don't have enough energy to support your metabolism.

It's a little known fact that dentistry is nothing more than a giant fucking meme.[1] Weston Price understood this back in the 30s: you only need to look at what people eat to tell if their teeth, dental arches and overall health are on point.[2] The Swiss of remote villages lost in the mountains have a 0.3% incidence of caries and they barely brush their teeth, whereas nearby villages that adopted the modern diet and lifestyle had much worse dental health, with sometimes 100 times more cavities.

So, provided that you brush from time to time (and is that even really necessary?), you should not encounter a single dentist in your life. And the author of this thread knows about this: he didn’t go to the dentist for 8 whole years. He returned once just to make sure, and everything was great (except he needed a little floss).
Now, as they still need money to survive, dentists will meme you into removing your wisdom teeth, which is a new thing that simply didn’t happen before and has tons of little bad consequences[3]. However, if you have terrible dental health, you’ll probably need to watch your wisdom teeth carefully, as they can trigger infections.

In short, the secret to dental health is in your diet and nowhere else.

The diet for good dental health

Let’s start with the first dental meme: sugar.

Oh noooooo, you can’t eat sugar your teeth will rot nooooo!!!

This is what most people believe, and what many dentists believe too.
Caries are a “bacterially generated disease”.[7] Bad bacteria in your teeth will eat fermented sugar sitting in your mouth in order to develop. Much like in diabetes, it does not mean that sugar is responsible for the problem – but, much like in diabetic cell metabolism, if you have bad bacteria populating your teeth, you’ll be feeding them by eating sugar, particularly sucrose. So you have to make sure the immune system of your teeth works properly… and also to avoid constantly getting sucrose by your teeth, which implies not sipping on fruit juices all day long. The saliva has to do its work and having the sugary stuff within a meal and not between meals is supposedly a good way to prevent problems.

What’s causing bad bacteria to develop seem to be mostly 2 things: bad gut flora and nutrient deficiency.

Bad gut flora can disturb, among other things, the pH of your intestinal tract and lower the bacterial defenses of your teeth. This allows for harmful bacteria to develop.
The author of this thread would know about this: he got the first 2 cavities of his life past-25yo in the 2 back molars after 6 months of low-intensity acid reflux, which he talked about in another thread (as soon as the reflux went away, all dental problems were gone).
So gut health is a key factor. A peaty, fruit sugar-focused diet (for stomach pH) with unpasturized dairy (for gut microbiome [4,5]) should bring about a healthy gut flora.

While "gut health" is definitely a vague and intangible concept for the most part, we can point to some notable phenomenon, notably shortcomings in the methylation process, bringing about excess histamines causing gut problems, and thus teeth cavities or mouth ulcers. This is why, unsurprisingly, supplementation in B vitamins greatly attenuates mouth ulcers recurrence.[14]

Nutrient deficiency, notably in fat-soluble vitamins A, D and K2 (MK-4) found in meat, dairy and fish is also a main culprit. They are required by the immune system of your teeth to function. That is arguably why a vegan diet is detrimental to dental health.[6]
Magnesium, calcium and vitamin D work together for the maintenance of bone density.
Collagen (glycine especially), vitamin C also play a major role in dental health.[8,9,13]
Basically make sure you’re getting all of your nutrients.

When you’re under attack

If you feel increased sensibility in your teeth (to sugar, cold or hot), this means you’re being attacked. Few pointers that could work to nuke the bad bastards eating on your enamel, remineralize your teeth and regrow your gum.

• Rinse after eating.
• Use a straw to drink any sugary stuff (you’ll have to renounce your heterosexuality until teeth improve).
• Oil pulling with coconut oil, a traditional ayurvedic remedy which seems to work. [10]
• Old traditional mouthwash with essential oils can possibly help.[12]
• Antibiotics could work too.
• Gum (like xylitol), if possible soaked in K2/D3/calcium, an old-school remedy.[11]
• Methylene blue can also work, also seems to help whiten teeth.
• Chewing mastic gum is proven to kick out the bad bacteria out of your mouth and helps with remineralization plaque and gingivitis
  (http://dx.doi.org/10.1902/jop.2003.74.4.501 , https://doi.org/10.2319/122205-455r.1 , https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/doi/full/10.5555/20093184339).
• Chewing cloves can help just as well, it's a powerful antibiotic and potential mood uplifter (from @ah): "Ill keep chewing/swishing until the saliva is too much and I have to spit it out"
• Homemade toothpaste : coconut oil, sodium bicarbonate and some essential oil of your chosing (like mint) (from @Martiño): "heat the coconut oil if it's in solid state, once its liquid, add sodium bicarbonate and if you want mint essential oil to give it that classic freshness."

Questions

I am definitely not an expert on this topic, so feel free to correct me.
What do you guys think?
Have you seen worsened dental health with a sucrose-rich diet?
What are some of your techniques to remineralize?

References

1. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/the-trouble-with-dentistry/586039/
2. The Weston Price book come on
3. https://doi.org/10.2105%2FAJPH.2006.100271
4. https://doi.org/10.3390/nu12051468
5. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ctim.2019.102196
6. https://doi.org/10.1111/cdoe.12498
7. https://doi.org/10.3389/froh.2021.657518
8. https://doi.org/10.2741/E281
9. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1749-6632.1987.tb23772.x
10. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.heliyon.2020.e04789
11. https://twitter.com/T3MaxxiAlt/status/1732654889753608591
12. Like this one: https://uncleharrys.com/products/miracle-mouthwash
13. https://doi.org/10.1177/00220345750540054001
14. https://doi.org/10.21037/apm-21-1064

Case studies

@Evolutionarily said in The Dental Care Thread:

For anyone who has a dental issue they are trying to fix holistically rather than the dental route, I have stumbled upon a regimen which definitely works, the bads news is I don't know which one is doing the work or if they are synergistic (likely they are but also likely just 1 or 2 of these things would have sufficed).

This was my post a month ago: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/1492/tips-for-naturally-healing-a-dental-pocket-cavity

What I did:
-Coconut oil pulling in morning (just swish in mouth for 2-5 mins whilst im preparing breakfast)
-Xylitol gum (I found one with good ingredients; and I spit out the first big load of flavour/etc)
-Chewing cloves
-Chewing Mastic gum
-Salt water swish and gargle 3-4 times per day and after food
-In the evening black seed oil pulling (again nothing crazy; few mins of swishing it around focusing on the tooth I was having issues with).
-5mg of K2 MK4 per day
-Daily Flossing, Interdental brushes, and teeth brushing

Not only did the above regimen appear to have fixed my issue; it also cleared my tongue dramatically so it's perfectly pink in the morning now, and I would always have one or two small bits of bleeding when flossing on specific teeth, just a little bit, but I realized writing this that has 100% gone now too.

@handsome-baby @Fructose
Thank you for the great insight.
This was the supplement: https://www.metabolics.com/niacinamide-pot-of-90-capsules.html So definitely Niacinamide.

@Fructose said in Niacinamide ball torture:

Have the nurses ruled out testicular torsion?

Not entirely, but given that there was no bloating of the tissue, except maybe after 2 hours of pain, it seems unlikely. Although it should be noted:

Cold temperature or rapid growth of the testicle during puberty also might play a role.

My appartment is rather cold (am europoor) and my balls have been getting bigger thanks to peatism, so it might have played a role.

In any case, the pregnancy test is a great idea, I will get one and test, and do a scan of my balls too. Will report back, of course.

Thank you guys

@GreekDemiGod I took for one month (the whole bottle, 2 pills/day). I figured it wasn't a good idea to take it permanently.
I bought some BioGaia strains (only 100M L Reuteri per tablet) that I've been taking like once a week time for a month now but I am unsure if it's a good idea long-term.
I still feel notable energy boost when I take it. My mind works 2x as fast.

I heard several peatists demean probiotics as hazardous and potentially dangerous. I'd agree for mainstream probiotics, mostly because their actions aren't understood. But in the case of LR, it's been well-studied and in fact I haven't found a single negative study on it. It only lives in human gut and seems to be beneficial on all kind of aspects.

[In pigs] Numerous studies have demonstrated that they can positively improve performance, prevent diarrhea, alleviate stress, alter gastrointestinal microbiota, regulate the immune system, and thereby improve pig performance and health. The beneficial effects of L. reuteri in pigs have been related to different modes of action. The improvements in pig performance of supplemental L. reuteri are mostly due to the fact that L. reuteri has the ability to colonize the GIT, produce antimicrobial substances and stimulate the intestinal immune system (Figure 1), thereby promoting nutrient metabolism and improve health. However, a clear mode of action has yet to be described. It appears from the data presented that the benefical effects of L. reuteri are strain specific.

L. reuteri has the most extensive safety assessment record of any probiotic strain. A number of studies conducted both in vivo and in vitro indicate that L. reutei is safe for human consumption, even in large amounts.

--- https://doi.org/10.1186/s40104-015-0014-3

Some commercial mainstream strains may lead to antibiotic resistance, but the DSM strains used by BioGaia et al are supposedly safe.

[In high-fat diet mice] Gavaged with L. reuteri attenuated depressive-like behavior, improved blood lipids and insulin resistance, reduced inflammation in liver and adipose tissues, improved intestinal tight junctions as well as the microbiome dysbiosis in obesity and depression comorbidity mice.

--- https://doi.org/10.3389/fphar.2023.1149185

I'm not a mice, but I was certainly on high-fat diet and depressive...

L. reuteri is the only Lactobacillus species reported to inhabit the gastrointestinal tract of all vertebrates and mammals, ranging from birds to humans, and with whom it is believed to have established a symbiotic relationship.

--- https://doi.org/10.1080/08910600050216246-1

L Reuteri only lives inside us, it's litterally our greatest ally...

Human-derived L. reuteri strains have the ability to produce a number of vitamins including cobalamin (vitamin B12), folic acid, and thiamine.

--- https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-12-804024-9.00008-2

It really seems to improve metabolism by enhancing the production of many vitamins.

There has been a decrease in the abundance of L. reuteri in humans in the past few decades likely caused by the modern lifestyle (Antibiotic use, western diet, improved hygiene).

--- https://doi.org/10.3389/fmicb.2018.00757

In conclusion, supplemental L. reuteri may be fed at 1 × 1011 CFU/day without any clinically significant safety or tolerance problems. Intake of L. reuteri (1 × 1011 CFU/day) results in colonisation (as measured by faecal level) within 7 d of consumption and is maintained for at least 7 d post consumption; however, colonisation is lost within 2 mths of washout.

--- https://doi.org/10.3109/08910609509141381

A huge concern is it doesn't seem to last very long in our body (2 months).

The rich have cocaine, I have L. Reuteri.

Hello and thank you for the great work!

I was born with a sensible gut, in fact my oesophagus is kinda messed up from birth and I was always cautious with food. To give you an idea, a bit too much salt make me cough and I need water when I eat for the food to pass through. As a kid, I'd simply not eat any vegetables and few fruits and gorge on milk chocolate like an absolute madman. I was of course very thin, athletic and high-energy -- though I was often constipated.
Long story short, I made my diet "healthier" from 18yo. Which means less carbs, more fibers, some PUFA, but not shunning on SFA though.

Fast forward 8 years later. It was the brightest and warmest day of august, I was with some friends in the south of France. Our only endeavors where playing card games, drinking fine wine and contemplating the blue horizon. Just endless blue and the calm stillness of eternal summer... But I wasn't feeling it, at all. I was trapped in my mind, I was in a constant state of inner inbalance. I could barely bring myself to smile.

It also appeared I often had latent, low-level nausea, for some unknown reasons. 2 weeks later I was at a family gathering and I couldn't even bring myself to help others putting away the plates and cleaning -- that's what gut problems make of you: a frail, rude, miserable human. Something was not right. I immediatly decided I'd drink a Coke -- it provided immediate relief within 1 minute. Something was not right.

A few months later, I had an appointment to the dentist. For the first time in my life (past 25yo) I had caries. "Sir, you have acid reflux." "What is this?" "It's when acid comes from your gut and allows for bacteria to evolve in your back teeth." So I began my investigation.

At this point I didn't know what to eat because everything seemed to cause nausea--hence reflux. It would take me 6 months to have an apointment with a specialized doctor.
I had heard the theory that depression is caused by bad bacteria in the gut. I thought I may have H. Pylori (which thrives in acidic stomach), so I ordered a probiotics which, studies said, was fairly effective against it. The TheraScience "HP" supplement contains 20B units of Lactobacillus Reuteri. [ https://www.therascience.com/en_uk/hp-phy393.html ] I started taking it.

1 week in, I got the result of some hospital gastro test: I don't have H. Pylori. I still caried on with the supplement.
By week 2, this weird thing happened: though my objective situation worsened by the day (left my gf, boring job prospect, etc.), I simply couldn't feel depression. In fact the joyful, careless attitude of my youth started coming back, for no apparent reason. I went from struggling to talk (a difficulty to find the proper words) to being the funniest guy in the room. I became more organized (which is a really new thing for me), much more open to people. I suddenly wanted to travel.
From week 3, I was in a constant euphoric state. Everywhere was hope and light and happiness. I've never felt this way. I was like a child again.
I emptied the supplement bottle after 1 month and had to stop. GERD was much rarer (though still there sometimes) and I seemed to have vanquished depression.

BAP talks about L Reuteri. "It induced euphoria for several days in people I know who took it." Yep.

In the meantime I had learned by inference that tanin in food hurted my gut. Tea (especially dark), dark beers, coffee grounds, dark honey, tannic red wine were an aboslute no-no. Almost everytime they'd give me almost instant nausea. No wonder I was never a big fan of those. I seem to be tanin intolerant. I learned that milk proteins grab onto the tanins and neutralize them. I now drink cappuccino.

Some months passed and something else happened. I was memed by peatists to start drinking Coke every day (.6 to 1 liter/day), also because it's supposedly good for constipated/irritated guts. Remember when I said one day Coke made me feel immediatly good? It made me feel euphoric for 3 whole days, so much so that I couldn't sleep on the night of the 3rd day, I decided to stop it. It's the cafeine.

Today, 6 months after that Coke episode, my diet has changed quite a bit. I no longer take L Reuteri, nor Coke. I do drink capuccinos though, but I do really seem sensible to cafeine when I take more than 3 cups a day -- makes my heart races.
I get much more carbs than before, from fruits, I also enjoy less protein than before. My macros are likely something like 60C/25F/15P. Of course no PUFAs. I happily gorge on milk, which I love -- until recently it disgusted me. However my important consumption of milk might be giving me constipation often. I believe upping carbs intake made my GERD disappear completely.
I still avoid tanin-rich foods but seem to tolerate them better.
I don't feel euphoric but definitely feel great most of the time. I have felt acid reflux in months now. My athletic performance have been the best in my life lately.

I'm still left with a few questions on my mind:

• Are probiotics really safe? Could have I just been lucky? Is there a risk of dependance?
• Is tanin intolerance related to a depressed gut function?
• Did some of you experience racing heart rate after intake of cafeine? Is sensibility to cafeine sign that something is wrong?

I am very grateful for all the people involved in this autistic community.

PS: Sorry for the long post...

Yes, it's accurate. In fact it's exactly what happened.

It was 23.30pm, I was back from a trip in Austria (what a beautiful country btw). I wasn't feeling bad, I was just feeling kind of tired and, for some random reason that I can't really explain (let's just say i'm retarded), I took one of these niacinamide pills that were sitting quietly in my fridge. The brand is Metabolics and, it's 500mg per capsule -- which is more than 3000% of DV, something I discovered right after taking it. I went to sleep right after that.

At 6am I was woken up by a pain. A pain, yes, in the balls, more precisely at the root of my right ball, on the side. I see no visible redness or anything.

2 hours later I'm in the ER and every nurse on the block has touched my balls (I'm not bragging btw, it’s a hell of a pain). To their disbelief, there's nothing. I get the impression that it's a blood vessel problem on the inside, but I could be totally wrong. It completely disappeared after 2 hours, and nobody understood what it was. It was the only occurrence of ball torture in my life (so far).

I may have slight liver/heart/cholesterol problems but nothing significant and definitely got deep gut problems from a retarded diet, which I fixed. Aside from this I'm normal weight and overall healthy. My diet at the time was like 20P/40F/40C. I also wasn't sleeping in a weird position.

Was it related to my niacinamide intake? It might not but the coincidence is weird. I know B3 can act as blood thinner, and also acts on HDL cholesterol...
Do you guys have any ideas what it could have been?