Posts made by LetTheRedeemed

@yerrag Ray inspired me to use food alternatives to supplements, like providing precursors for glutathione production. B6 is a precursor for glutathione, found in liver

@DavidPS so I guess NAC is used primarily for it's antioxidant function.

@DavidPS solid inputs. have you ever experimented with glutathione precursors? I know NAC is basically a cysteine supplement, yet the rate limiting factor for glutathione production is the rarer dietary precursors like the B vitamins and glycine, and Ray has spoken negatively about cysteine in excess (aka the amounts needed will easily be met just by eating any non-gelatin protein source).

Gelatin, aspirin, cypro, niacinamide.

@wester130 interesting, do you have a link? I wouldn’t know where to start.

@Mauritio yup. I can’t help but feel like it’s a psyop.

@Mauritio ironically, they make stuff up as they go lol

@Butter-Girl very interesting. Thank you.

@Butter-Girl good question, and outside my pay grade, lol.

I'm generally a fan of the building block nutrients that restores a pathway or metabolism, rather than bypass it supplementing the end-product -- idk about the consequences of that. Let me know what you find if you try research it -- if there is knowledge that it won't retard the pathway in anyway, I'd like to try it, too.

@LucH thanks for sharing. No doubt this is an effective alternative when using chemo…
Not to be a snob, but that convinces me to never advise chemo lol.

I second Ecstatic.

My waking temps went down after some weeks on thyroid, most likely lowering adrenaline. My morning depression also went away.

My friend increasing pro metabolic eating, got lower waking temps, too.

I wonder if on the occasions you felt groggy on a hormone, it would help to have been consuming more calories — taking it, is after all mimicking the effect of a high metabolic rate while bypassing the compromised metabolism.

Also, getting temps and pulse up is the holy grail of weight loss. I’d look more into Peat’s work on it if you haven’t. You’re not afraid of exogenous hormones so thyroid would be right up your alley.

Danny Roddy shared with me his experience with clients and research from Broda Barnes, that the body can’t burn fat however you try, without adequate temps.

@LucH do you have any pharma/supplemental suggestions in accordance with your statement?

@GreekDemiGod yo Greco you’ve been around a long while… respect, and sorry for your mother.

Will they allow aspirin?

Gelatin.

Foods high in D and K maybe

@Butter-Girl ️

@Butter-Girl totally agreed. Whenever I try low fat for weight loss I don’t feel good.

I remind extremist peatarian gate keepers that he said in an ideal healthy state one could eat 50% of calories from fat; but on the other hand that, pufa even from animal sources like dairy, is relevant enough that it’s worth supplementing fat intake with fructose intake (moderately lowering fat intake).

I of course follow how I feel, and so drink several glasses of raw milk in the morning and with each meal and eat a pint of icecream a day.

Dairy really is the super food — especially for caucasians — due to them missing the genes to more efficiently convert fructose to lipids (fat), and the low melanin skin doesn’t retain calcium. This is why I supplement a few teaspoons of calcium carbonate (pasteurization converts the calcium into a colloidal calcium — indigestible).

@Butter-Girl
"Just about everything that goes wrong involves FFA increase. If they are totally saturated fatty acids, such as from coconut oil and butter, those are less harmful, but they still tend to shift the mitochondrial cellular metabolism away from using glucose and fructose and turning on various stress related things; By lowering the carbon dioxide production I think is the main mechanism." - Ray Peat

And this reply from Georgi:
“This is true, but palmitic acid specifically activates the pyruvate dehydrogenase enzyme unlike any other fat. Stearic acid can do the same but it much less potent than palmitic. Peat said it several times and I posted studies on that too. Low pyruvate dehydrogenase activity is found in virtually all disease, especially diabetes and cancer, and aging in general. Thiamine (B1), thyroid, and palmitic acid restore its function.
Also, palmitic acid is crucial for keep the mitochondrial limid cardiolipin saturated. Aging and diseases are all characterized by both decrease in cardiolipin levels and increase in the unsaturation of the composition. Babies have almost fully saturated cardiolipin and very old people have cardiolipin composed almost entirely of omega-6. Cardiolipin is one of the main controllers of cytochrome C oxidase function and the activities of electron transport chains III and IV. Animal studies with phosphatidylcholine showed that it can restore cardiolipin levels back to youthful levels, and eating saturated fat restores its saturated composition.
When you eat sugar in excess you synthesize primarily palmitic acid. Yes, eating tons of fat is not wise but is someone has been ingesting PUFA poison for years, it's better for them to gorge on saturated fat for a while to change the body composition of fats. Otherwise, if they try to lose weight all that PUFA will flood the bloodstream and wreak havoc from which very few people will be able to come out fine.”

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/saturated-fats-and-mitochondrias.9177/

@samson what’s your dose? Each time I try it I get diarrhea due to likely elevated adrenaline due to the glucose requirement. Do you take with t4 later in the day? T4 lowers adrenaline. Idk if it would mitigate the uncoupling effects of strait t3 tho — I feel like it does.

To stave hunger pangs consider Yerba mate. It contains a compound that suppresses hunger pangs. It’s suggested to take with lemon juice to block a bad anti nutrient that is pretty bad.

@Butter-Girl

You wrote:
“ Apparently, pufa making a high percentile of the fat in a balanced diet doesn't cause the same deleterious effects as the same diet, minus the carbs”
Are you stating it is the carbs and not the fat that “cause the deleterious effects” then?

The opposite. Sorry I guess that wasn’t clear. Aka, I believe they used the same type of fat ratio for the dietary interventions, but one dietary intervention had more carbs, and one had less carbs.
The one with less carbs fared worse.

As far as Georgi “being a fan of dairy fat for weight management, immune function, metabolism, etc. “
that’s what I thought he promoted as well.
So that is why I made the comments I did and questioning why it seemed like he was supporting the posted articles assertions that high fat was what was the “deleterious factor”.

I think the study enforces an important point: free fatty acids in the blood is toxic — even saturated free fatty acids in the blood will be toxic, tho they didn’t address that alone. So if you really want to disagree with it you could just say “the study can’t determine that,” it can determine that pufa is apparently fine when combined with carbs — but we know they to be false cumulatively.

@Butter-Girl
Due to the title of the post: "High-fat, low-carb diet may cause..."
And, the study itself delineates a high fat diet, vs a not high fat diet.

Georgi is doin some heckin classic reasoning. Apparently, pufa making a high percentile of the fat in a balanced diet doesn't cause the same deleterious effects as the same diet, minus the carbs. This does not indicate pufa is safe on a higher carb diet, nor does it indicate pufa is the controlling factor for raising serotonin in the high fat / low carb diet - of course we know that it no doubt exacerbates it (as does Georgi.

I know I made sure to incorporate lots of low carb dairy fat and protein in my keto carnivore days, and I experienced all the things the study results show before I added carbs.

Georgi is a fan of dairy fat for weight management, immune function, metabolism, etc. He's posted studies extolling it in rpf.

I don't remember for sure if it was Ray or Danny Roddy, but I'm positive I heard him say that if you're going to cause the stress of a low carb diet like carnivore, low fat is safest (even if it's saturated), to keep the FFA levels low in the blood.
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/free-fatty-acids-ffa-as-the-cause-of-insulin-resistance.7824/