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@NNight said in Bioenergetic AI Labs 
The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:
This is good science fiction.
Just a fantasy... 
If you want a good sci-fi I can recommend a classic "Forbidden Planet" movie...
BTW What real science thinks about LLMs:
"We conclude that sensational and misleading claims about LLM agency and capabilities emerge from a deep misconception of both what human language is and what LLMs are." https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.08790
@StreamOfWater said in High DHEA, Cortisol, Prolactin and Cholesterol:
So I tried thyroid but that only increased the stress. I feel stuck.
Sorry to hear that.
Have you tried to visit a doctor for a medical examination due to high cortisol? Or to consider things like for example Cushing disease?
BTW do you know your estrogen/estradiol levels? Can't find it in the pictures attached...
https://raypeatforum.com/community/tags/cushings/
https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/hot-flashes-energy-aging.shtml
@sharko said in Bioenergetic AI Labs The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:
taking the legacy to a whole new level
No, this is not a new level, a stochastic parrot can't compare to Ray's in any way. He had a unique ability to comprehend and connect things/dots on a level unimaginable for an average human.
As wisely described by @ThinPicking above.
I also have nothing against a smart search through Ray's archives, but an LLM can't give "answers" to naive folks and should not be advertised this way...
And if one thinks that LLMs are an advancement, it's also good to consider their cost and unintended consequences. More about it can be found here.
@Peatful said in Bioenergetic AI Labs The future of Ray Peat's legacy is already set:
1- lots have never understood Peat while he was alive- many times because of context.
Therefore, I don’t see this as a good thing
Yes, we don't want a mindless AI hallucinating BS in the name of Ray...
2- more importantly:
Beautiful! Thank you for sharing this! 
@StreamOfWater said in High DHEA, Cortisol, Prolactin and Cholesterol:
I have tried careful thyroid supplementation in the past, but without much success
What about trying to lower stress first?
With Royal jelly, theanine, or more advanced things like Aspirin, emodin (Cascara S.), or progesterone (Progest-E)? What about sun/red light, meditation, CO2, B vitamins, etc?
PCOS - A Proposed Root Cause
Our body is an interconnected, nonlinear ecosystem, there is no singular "root cause".
Or as Nate nicely wrote:
Health issues are not meant to be addressed directly. You heal by simply out-nourishing the issue. Until it feels like all aspects of your life are improving in unison, you are not adequately nourished. It should feel like nothing can break your stride. The bioenergetic symphony. ~@natelawrence_
@StreamOfWater Levels of TSH, Reverse T3, Prolactin, LDL, and cortisol are high enough to start to worry...
Questions:
What is the best course of action for me in this situation?
I would recommend learning more (in-depth) from https://dannyroddy.substack.com/
or
https://youtu.be/ROg65KjYqxQ (watch the whole series)
or
https://twitter.com/HansAmato + https://x.com/Outdoctrination/
@PrinceTrebata said in is thyroid supplementation essential?:
How possible is it to actually achieve 37 degrees with ought it being due to adrenaline? IIRC Broda Barnes estimated over half of adults could be hypothyroid and this was back in the 1970s. Our environment has only become more toxic since.
Nobody promised that it would be easy... But the proper solution is systemic i.e. taking care of all health aspects, not just taking T4/T3 for example... Such [holistic] approach will take control of adrenaline too.
Just for a note: other substances that can help with better metabolism besides thyroid: Androgens/DHEA, progesterone, Aspirin, caffeine, niacinamide, collagen/gelatin, sodium, Ca, Mg, Zn, ADEK, carbohydrates, etc. Not to mention, sunlight/red light, walking/hiking, and rich social and creative life...
Update: and by avoiding PUFAs!
@yerrag Well said, can't agree more
@LucH
Ray has written about veggies in an extensive way using his genius systemic (holistic) approach.
No need to discuss reductionist arguments that some particular isolated substances in greens can (allegedly) help...
The disadvantages of monotonous diets are obvious, I agree, there is nothing to debate here.
What I think about greens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4V4DK_3-Bc
@wester130 If one can raise their body temperature to about 37 degrees Celcius just with smart nutritional and lifestyle changes they don't need thyroid supplementation.
If someone can't raise it naturally then careful/thoughtful consideration of thyroid supplementation is recommended...
Visual aid https://twitter.com/natelawrence_/status/1766186130985107582
@LucH said in Vitamin E safe for daily consumption?:
green raw veggies (=> smoothie
Raw veggies besides carrot salad are unhealthy, with many anti-nutrient, anit-thyroid substances...
Ray recommended a kale broth.
Peatbot: Anti-nutrients are compounds found in raw vegetables that can interfere with the absorption of nutrients and may have other adverse effects on health. Here are some key points about anti-nutrients in raw vegetables based on the provided context:
Oxalic Acid in Spinach: Spinach contains oxalic acid, which can bind to calcium and remove it from the body, potentially affecting dental health by taking calcium out of your teeth.
Enzyme Blockers: Some leafy vegetables contain chemicals that can block digestive enzymes in the stomach, making it harder for the body to digest and absorb nutrients.
Defensive Chemicals in Leaves: Leafy greens have defensive chemicals designed to protect the plant from being eaten by grazers and insects. These chemicals can block human digestive enzymes unless the greens are thoroughly cooked.
Starch in Raw Vegetables: Starchy vegetables like bananas, plantains, and potatoes should be cooked to break down the starch. Undercooked starch can enter the bloodstream and cause issues such as allergic reactions and blockage of capillaries, leading to cell death.
Anti-Thyroid Compounds: Some raw vegetables, such as certain radishes, contain compounds that can have anti-thyroid effects if consumed in large quantities.
Toxins in Seeds and Beans: Raw seeds, grains, and beans contain specific toxins that can irritate the intestine and cause digestive issues. Cooking these foods can help neutralize these toxins.
Cellulose in Raw Vegetables: The cellulose in raw vegetables encloses nutrients, making them inaccessible to human digestive enzymes. Cooking can break down the cellulose and make the nutrients more available.
In summary, while some raw vegetables can be nutritious, others contain anti-nutrients that can interfere with digestion and nutrient absorption. Cooking these vegetables can help reduce or eliminate these anti-nutrients, making the nutrients more accessible and the vegetables easier to digest.
Thank you @ThinPicking and @LetTheRedeemed. Glad we're sharing that point of view and values.
@ThinPicking - I like that movie too!
In the mathematical theories of dynamical systems with emergent structure (which I think you're obliquely referring to)
No, those "mathematical theories of dynamical systems" apply only to the particles on a physics level.
I'm writing about biological Complex Adaptive (eco)Systems instead. Moreover, the anthropological complexity of humans adds another level/layer of complexity to it - and it cannot be modeled or predicted. (We are more than ants...). See No Laws Entail Evolution or Computational Irreducibility.
But let's get to the point. Chaotic systems usually don't like to stay this way, after some time of interactions, some constraints emerge. But such constraints are usually suboptimal and temporary - they evolve! (systems are far from equilibrium) Some of such systems survive most collapses.
But enough theory, let's get practical.
If we allow an ecosystem (like this forum) to be almost totally free, then some "wild" spontaneous constraints will emerge with time but in most cases, they will be suboptimal. i.e., promote local optima like the most brutal or outspoken/heated, but not the most in-depth discussions. Or they can create cliques or "movements" like anit-VA RPF. This will discourage more calm/peaceful/gentle/thoughtful users from participating (as many others warned).
Therefore, it would be much better to consciously and thoughtfully create enabling constraints that will support wise discussion in the spirit of Ray Peat before the wild constraints emerge spontaneously...
And by constraints, I don't mean the bars of the cage, but the scaffolding that helps the grapes grow...
So, the choice is easy, we can have a free forum, which in time will become free from in-depth discussion, or a forum that will proactively encourage and nurture honest wisdom exchange.
And we have a lot of practical examples of such.
A free (unregulated) market of food became a market of most cheap and toxic i.e. PUFAs, pesticide-loaded fast food...
A free market of Internet ideas became mainly a tribal conflict of superficial ideas and marketing deceptive click-bait articles...
A free market of research papers journal points promotes the most politically correct articles, not the most insightful/innovative.
As we all remember Ray was non-violent, joyful, wise, and generous in his discussions. Let's keep it this way.
Free doesn't mean free from effort. True liberty requires a lot of conscious work...
You heard this thought:
Without vision or leadership; people perish.
(Grossly paraphrased on my behalf)
Yeah, agree. I would reformulate it slightly:
Without a proper sense of direction or (distributed) leadership; people perish.
A sense of direction allows for constant course correction and distributed leadership minimizes the chance of tyrants...
Structure is paramount
And
What rules the structure is the way the organism/organization will trend
Yep.
Or relevant here- Charlie’s pathology.
Or the illness of any gatekeeper.
The energy.Whomever creates or enforces these guardrails-
Needs to be well.
It's good to have a system of proper Checks and Balances... to prevent unfortunate events like RPF anti-VA takeover...
@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Apology:
Thanks for sticking up for free speech.
Yep, moreover... It's good to remember that we need a basic set of rules and proper initial conditions to keep things free.
As Ray would say a system needs energy and structure.
A system without any rules is just chaos... I have written more about it here https://bioenergetic.forum/post/23589
Just my two cents...
I.
Things like racial/woke/gender slurs usually indicate that someone is unfortunately still under the control of the system (you can call it matrix, memeplex, perverse assemblage, or just false narratives).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoating
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonizing_the_enemy
Those above are just smoke and mirrors to keep one from fighting/escaping a (rigged) system...
II.
Regarding moderation and forum rules: according to the theory and praxis of complex systems (AKA Chaos Theory) a system (like a forum) without constraints and attractors will always be in permanent high chaos.
Therefore, It would be good to conceive some enabling constraints (guidelines) and emphasize that the main attractor is an educational exchange about bioenergetics as a medicine and philosophy...
That can be done with the help of pinned posts, FAQs, and proper moderation.
Examples of enabling constraints:
Forum entries should be
I hope this helps...
@Key-2 This may sometimes mean problems with a proper metabolism...The human body should use cholesterol as a substrate for producing hormones.
You can learn more about it at https://bioenergetic.life/?q=triglycerides
@Starcrossed said in T3 to help metabolism and lower adrenaline/cortisol:
But the high progesterone was a big game changer. I was sitting in bed one day and all of a sudden some of my brain injury symptoms disappeared.
Interesting, great to hear.
I was told by a naturopath I was an under methylator.
Yeah, I'm an under-methylator too.
@wrl said in T3 to help metabolism and lower adrenaline/cortisol:
Based on what you've described as your current body state, I'd tread very cautiously with introducing thyroid hormone. Used without sufficient nutrient stores or with unacknowledged body chemistry dynamics (eg over/under methylation etc etc), it has the potential to aggravate things.
I can't agree more with the statement above.
I spent about six months fixing my nutrition and lifestyle before I tried thyroid supplementation...
BTW Some recommended useful resources:
https://x.com/celestialbe1ng/status/1802008577130770472
https://twitter.com/natelawrence_/status/1766186130985107582
I've found an interesting study - I haven't read (verified) the details and methodology yet, but some key conclusions seem interesting...
In summary, though there may be an upside to delaying morning caffeine intake under conditions of sufficient sleep, this has to do with the magnitude of effect rather than proposed mechanisms related to prolonging the cortisol peak, continued declines in adenosine, or avoiding an afternoon “crash.” A significant drawback in the argument related to cortisol is that a similar effect occurs with intense resistance exercise performed soon after waking. Following this line of reasoning would imply that this type of early morning exercise should be avoided; however, this notion makes no scientific or pragmatic sense. The suggestion that adenosine continues to decline upon waking is also scientifically inaccurate and not supported by research. There is also no evidence that caffeine ingestion upon waking is somehow responsible for an afternoon “crash” or that delaying consumption would somehow prevent this if it did occur.
@BioEclectic said in Do you drink coffee first thing in the morning?:
Careful with the amount of baking soda.
Yeah, thanks. I usually use little amounts of it at first
BTW in the meantime, I found a claim that baking soda shouldn't be mixed with calcium - and milk obviously contains calcium. Not sure what to think about it...