@Korven I just did a cycle of t3 and I too feel pretty horrible in general, much better off the meds. I say work on your metabolism through diet and lifestyle and leave the thyroid meds out unless you’re actually clinically hypo.

Progest-E from long natural health has arrived! My mom is excited to try it out.

@DavidPS I just put topical niacinamide on my nose with water and it smelled bad.

Just reporting back here that my first experience with micellized D3 did not go well. Was really hoping this would be the trick to getting D3. Unfortunately, I felt anxious and very off, then a typical malaise. I believe the anxiety was due to some hormonal change, to use a very unscientific description. The one thing different from most other supplements, especially fat-based D3, was that the heavy malaise did not last long at all, where it usually always does — days. When I get the courage, I'll try this again.

@wester130 No but I’ll check it out.

@Uroš Don't know what's the optimal but it makes sense taking it with food to slow the absorption to mimic the natural production and release. I just upped to 3 grains and I think the easiest way for me is to take the T3 three times a day with a bigger meal, with only the last meal also containing all of the T4. There's probably individual variance in what works best.

@Alomongerpete I think ray used a in ear thermometer

@pittybitty you don't experience dry skin at all?

Late update: Finally settled on this as it's closer to my region: https://myospots.com/products/natural-toothpaste-with-hydroxyapatite

@the_black_jew https://live-live.com/products/biocean-tonics-1000ml

Halogen lighting is a good choice. Let us know what your experiment reveals. [image: 1736875664998-c5419000-a8f5-4ef4-a1d2-38d23c3ac7c2-image.png]

There are many production methods. https://www.guanjiebio.com/news/how-many-plant-extracts-production-process-do-75963188.html

@Wamoti, below is the brand I have. It’s the one many of the old Ray Peat Forum members were using back in 2015 when we were experimenting with FOS. I’m not sure if they still carry it, but I got it from the pharmacy at Walmart: [image: 1735994725078-fbbec0a6-1065-409e-a11c-80a04d5c67f3-image-resized.jpeg]

@Serotoninskeptic incandescents r better imo

that sounds disgusting tbh. your kid's gonna throw it to the birds and go get an oh Henry from the vending machine.

@ilnyarienàfaire Do you have other health conditions? What is your TSH? Do you get sunlight/vit D? Do you lead a virtuous, meaningful life? Have you tried CBT/ do you have defense mechanisms for dealing with negative thoughts?

@TemetNosce Is there a reason why you aren't using Progest-E?

@BroImGay there might be something better than glycine Threonine - i think it could work better

@16charactersitis good to know