Dandruff or scalp irritation? Try BLOO.
I have known for 35 years that organs must be harvested from LIVE bodies. Brain death" is a lie. Dead organs are of no use. And keep in mind that they don't use anesthesia because... well...you're "dead."
(Sorry about the quality.)
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@sneedful said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
what is a good source for high quality glucose powder?
I buy it (dextrose) in bulk from Amazon, Earthborn Elements. Now brand is also good.
@sneedful said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
im thinking of trying this glucose loading thing but just a pre and intra and post workout shake for weightlifting / sprinting / etc workouts . some days I eat like 200g of honey in one sitting, it's like I can't get enough. I wonder if pure glucose will be better?
Yes, pure glucose is very therapeutic.
@sneedful said in IVERMECTIN BLOCKS GLYCOLYSIS?:
would you describe glucose therapy per Holmes?
Go to the thread "Glucose Loading Cures Everything"
@NokiaDrift I'm so happy to see you're trying the glucose protocol. I was going to suggest it but then finished reading your post and saw that you're already giving it a go. I'm in my 4th month, but being a tad older than you I expect it could take me quite a bit longer to be 100%. You have overcome so much and are on the right track! Carry on and do keep everyone posted!
We have a 60 year old relative who takes a daily dose of Fenbendazole to prevent a recurrence of colon cancer. (It went into "remission" following surgery and other conventional treatments.) Everyone in the family agrees that he has lost his mind. Is it from the Fenbendazole? After digging on this for days I'm afraid I have to say I believe so.
Ivermectin (and Fenbendazole) block glucose by inhibiting what are called GLUT transporters. Dr Peat and Georgi claim Ivermectin can cause brain damage. The brain must have glucose or it will die. Blocking these transporters seems like a bad idea.
I've been taking Fenbendazole for weeks and recently began alternating with Ivermectin. I've developed reduced appetite, reduced gut motility, wounds stopped healing, extreme fatigue, fibromyalgia has flared, and overall feeling of unwellness. I don't think I'll be taking Ivermectin or Fenbendazole anymore. If I do it will be for 2 or 3 days, every 6 months, if that often.
So if Ivermectin can cause brain damage by blocking glucose to the brain, Dr. Stephens (glucose therapy) may be on to something.
I caught a "cold" and have been taking Ivermectin daily for about 3 weeks (in case it was covid, again). The Ivermectin has caused a flare up of my fibromyalgia, which had been greatly reduced/controlled using glucose therapy. I did more reading and found that both Ivermectin (AND Fenbendazole) block glycolysis. It seems blocking the body's ability to make ATP is the opposite of what we want, isn't it? Isn't this also how metformin works? Am I way off base here?
@gentlepotato said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@gentlepotato Yes, temp, pulse, oxygen saturation, BP have all improved on glucose. I think for some of us healing just isn't going to feel great.
Definitely, not necessarily something that feels great, and the tricky thing really is to decipher what is just a part of healing and what are signals from the body that we need to tweak something. We might not even find the answers, but maybe sharing along the way at least will make it easier for those who try this after us.
Case in point. One of my old symptoms is hemorrhaging. I could bleed for months, then do some "tweaking" and it would stop. I hadn't bled in over a year. But then last week, the floodgates opened. It was worse than ever. I told my nurse daughter, and her answer, as always, was for me to go see a doctor. But just as suddenly as it started, it stopped...not a drop. All of my retracing on glucose has been like this. It comes on suddenly and doesn't last long. One interesting observation about this is I would aways feel better while having the bleeding episodes. It made me wonder if our intelligent bodies know things, like for instance that I may have too much stored iron, and it finds a way to deal with it.
So many things to discover and contemplate on this healing journey.
@gentlepotato Yes, temp, pulse, oxygen saturation, BP have all improved on glucose. I think for some of us healing just isn't going to feel great.
@gentlepotato said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@Mr-X said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
its absolutely insane that some here take up to 320grams of dextrose per day. And everybody is asking what can I do for my blood sugar crashes
is here somebody who did this protocol for several months and is now completely off glucose? I think after months of glucose loading you will go into hypoglycemic hell and youre in a worser state than before the protocol.I'm one of the people who have blood sugar crashes, and I only take 144 grams a day. I've had more crashed while taking high doses at a time, rather than 1 tbsp every hour. Going back to 1 tbsp hasn't fully solved it yet though. And I think that's one of the tricky things about glucose, that sometimes and in some forms it lowers BG, but it can also increase BG. People react differently too.
I used a continuous glucose monitor for two weeks, and I would say I am over average good at making sense of patterns, but I was never able to make sense of the patterns of how I was responding to taking glucose, or of blood sugar levels. It's not the first protocol that's tricky to navigate though, so I'm not too worried about it. It doesn't make me think the protocol isn't working.
You asked a while back about outlining symptoms etc, and I didn't have the spoons to respond. I started at the beginning of July, so nearly at 3,5 months. My best metaphor for what is going on is that for years it's felt like I'm in the fight scene in an action movie, only my car won't start. The "bad guys" (fuel demands of all kinds, normal day to day stuff, but also reactivation of viruses etc) is "coming", and my body has not been able to fight any of it off. It's been a constant fight I have not been winning.
Now I'm still in the fight scene, so it's very intense at times, but the car is working. I've still got symptoms, but the body appears to successfully fight pathogens. However I think the glucose might fuel viruses etc as well, so I've got a lot of stuff reactivating.
I have probably had low grade infection many places in the body for years, including my brain. With no immune reaction pathogens probably just bob around and make a little mess all the time. It hasn't had much to fight, it's just taken over. Now the immune system is fighting back, and with more glucose the viruses also have more energy. For example:
First (two months ago) shingles tried to break out in the nerve pathway it has infected before, the pathways that goes to the thumb - I had flu like symptoms for 36 hours, but I didn't have a rash, and then some pain for a few days after. Then a couple of weeks ago I had a similar pain in my head and rash under my eye appeared, which the body fought off quickly. The rash disappeared, but then the pain was back in my thumb, and then the rash reappeared under my eye. Now it's gone down again, but I still have some pain. However none of it has been as painful as when the virus broke out properly, not the rash and not the nerve pain.
The body is still working on fighting off the infection, and I think that also means it is healing stuff in the brain that it hasn't been able to heal before.
I think the immune responses are a very, very good sign, and that it can be considered a win in terms of the the Itaconate shunt hypothesis for ME/CFS (separate from my hypothesis for why glucose may work).
I use other markers to see if it's getting better overall. Many of them are still not super consistent, so I don't feel 100% certain it's working, and I'm very unsure how much better it can make me. But there are enough good signs. Some of the "small" good signs are that my digestion is working consistently better, even with my sleep being very disrupted. Despite being under the weather for two months now my cycle is overall healthier.
This sounds so similar to my own experience with glucose. I remember that we both had reactivation of shingles around the same time, and both began taking glucose 3.5 months ago.
How are your temperatures and pulse? Mine are still doing well, consistently, but I've hit another rough patch. I sometimes wonder if I may have low grade fever. My morning temp seems high lately (98.9). I had constant "fever" and night sweats in my early 30's when I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, but after working with a homeopath and getting H202 IV's the fever and night sweats ended. Maybe I'm retracing those symptoms now. Hopefully this too shall pass, like the others.
@Mr-X said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
its absolutely insane that some here take up to 320grams of dextrose per day. And everybody is asking what can I do for my blood sugar crashes
is here somebody who did this protocol for several months and is now completely off glucose? I think after months of glucose loading you will go into hypoglycemic hell and youre in a worser state than before the protocol.
I think most of us in this thread doing the protocol haven't completed it yet. 3.5 months seems to be the longest anyone has been on glucose. I have months to go, and have had many symptoms come and go. The best indicator for me is my temperature. It's doing well, even first thing in the morning, before food. My husband's temperature has responded the same. If, as Dr. Broda Barnes discovered, temperature indicates thyroid health, we are doing great. How will we do when we stop glucose loading? I'll find out in a few months.
Maybe someone can make this make sense. Is it sugar or fat that feeds cancer?
@Ecstatic_Hamster said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I think another mechanism that may be in play here, with Dr. Stephens' system, is suppression of hyperglycolysis. Which produces only pyruvate and a little CO2 and energy, and burdens the brain. The brain responds by diminishing consumption of glucose and switching partially to using glutamine. This is EXACTLY what happens with Warburg's "cancer field" idea.
I proposed this idea to ChatGPT
Potential Mechanisms for Glucose Loading to Work:
Potential Mechanisms for Glucose Loading to Work:ā¢ Enhancing Mitochondrial Function: By providing ample glucose,
you could support mitochondrial oxidative metabolism by ensuring a
steady supply of pyruvate to the Krebs cycle, increasing electron
transport chain activity and ATP production.ā¢ Reducing Lactate Buildup: Slowing down glycolysis might reduce the accumulation of
lactate (which occurs when pyruvate is converted to lactate in
anaerobic glycolysis), which is often a hallmark of hyperglycolysis
in conditions like cancer or impaired mitochondrial function.ā¢ Rebalancing ATP Production: Encouraging ox-phos would lead to
more efficient ATP production (since oxidative phosphorylation
produces significantly more ATP per glucose molecule than
glycolysis) and may reduce the compensatory need for rapid
glycolysis in states of high energy demand.Caveats:
ā¢ Cancer Cells and Adaptation: In cancer, cells have adapted to
rely on glycolysis due to changes in mitochondrial function or other
oncogenic signaling. Glucose loading alone may not be enough to
reverse these metabolic shifts. However, in non-cancerous
hyperglycolytic states, it could potentially restore metabolic
balance.ā¢ Tumor Environment: The tumor microenvironment, which
often includes hypoxia (low oxygen), favors glycolysis. Simply
providing more glucose may not necessarily shift cells back to
ox-phos in such environments without other interventions (e.g.,
improving oxygen availability or mitochondrial function).Conclusion:
While it is speculative, the concept of glucose loading could
theoretically help regulate metabolism by reducing hyperglycolysis and
encouraging oxidative phosphorylation, leading to increased COā
production and more efficient energy use. This could be beneficial in
certain cases of metabolic dysregulation, though in cancer cells, their
preference for glycolysis may make this strategy more complex. Further
research would be needed to confirm whether this approach is effective
across different conditions where hyperglycolysis occurs.
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So how does this (below) fit into this process?
"Several metabolic pathways for the supply of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) have been proposed; however, the major source of reducing power for ADP in cancer remains unclear. Although glycolysis is the source of ATP in tumors according to the Warburg effect, ATP levels do not differ between cancer cells grown in the presence and absence of glucose. Several theories have been proposed to explain the supply of ATP in cancer, including metabolic reprograming in the tumor microenvironment. However, these theories are based on the production of ATP by the TCA-OxPhos pathway, which is inconsistent with the Warburg effect. We found that blocking fatty acid oxidation (FAO) in the presence of glucose significantly decreased ATP production in various cancer cells. This suggests that cancer cells depend on fatty acids to produce ATP through FAO instead of glycolysis."
@josh said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Iāve read through a copy of Dr David Stephens book recently And he suggested people land on a dose Between 40-80 Grams, 3 to 4 times a day, So between 160 and 320 grams Per day As a minimum and it can go much higher. This made me realise if I was going to do this I needed to vastly increase the amount of glucose I was taking each day.
I was trying to work out what feeling was aiming for when I knew I was at the correct dose. Iāve been exerting myself quite hard today, which caused my trigger happy adrenaline to start up with all the usual feelings of palpitations, but as per usual after I had finished exerting myself I got this 30 minutes of well-being and feeling really good. I thought, of course! This is the amount of glucose I need, I need the same amount of glucose as what my adrenaline produces in these moments of stress to start the feelings of well-being and ultimately endorphins. Although helpful, it also doesnāt make any sense for my glucose consumption to be Exactly the same amount throughout the day. Itās better to take glucose consistently throughout the day than not, but it feels ideally the amount of glucose should respond to the need of stressors and feeling To match the supply and demand. Iāve ended up dissolving 240 g of dextrose in a litre of milk to buffer it with the slightly. I keep it in a flask with me throughout the day and Iām going to try to intuitively drink the glucose in response to the stresses of the day. I think itās may be worth upping the amount in the flask too!
Ultimately, I am hoping that this will achieve the affect that Dr David Stevens sees, with my brain cells becoming less resistant to glucose, Due to the lower levels of adrenaline needed, and therefore less lipolysis.
Also trying to combine thiamine, and co2 to create a virtuous spiral But early days with this!
Dr. Stephens actually recommends doing this. He does it himself. He says that even those who are completely well should still take glucose during times of stress.
I asked him how much glucose he thought I might need to work up to based on my symptoms and he said probably 10 Tbsps per dose. I'm not there yet. Not sure if I can ever take that much at once. Dr. Mercola says to take glucose in smaller amounts, sipping throughout the day. I think just do whatever works for you.
I like Dr. Mercola's gut healing protocol using glucose (I'm not using sucrose).
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2024/09/15/the-truth-about-health.aspx
@CrumblingCookie said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Thanks for your reports coming in, everyone.
@Ecstatic_Hamster said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I think Dr. Stephensā brain theory is sorta wrong, but they do call dementia type 3 diabetes. I think this dextrose works because without the fructose, it can efficiently stop excessive lipolysis and kickstart oxphos.
I also reckon that ultimately a lot is going to be mediated through liver energy metabolism. Which, not least through biliary functioning, duodenal microbiome and barrier integrity and non-translocation of pathogens, toxins and LPS, is directly related to brain inflammation and functioning.
This brief little comment also stuck with me and I am now looking into extra CoQ10 and (tauro)ursodeoxycholicacid:
@LetTheRedeemed said in "Glucose Loading" protocol, a la Dr Stephens - A Critique:
Honestly, if one's liver function is so compromised they need to avoid fructose, [...]
I wonder if the fructose (in fruit and sucrose) is why so many gain weight when they begin following Dr. Peat. I did.
@gentlepotato said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I just got a new bag of glucose, same brand, but it smells more perfumed. I don't use any kind of perfumed products so for me it's very strong, and the smell reminds me of perfumed soap. There's a similar aftertaste, but other than that I feel the same having it. Has anyone experienced this? I found some mentions of it when I googled, but I'm not sure it was pure glucose or other sweeteners.
I bought a 50 lb bag of dextrose but it had a strange odor so didn't use it. I've had better luck with a couple of the brands in plastic containers, so I'm sticking with those.
@evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Just an update to chime in. Dextrose has absolutely been the most effective thing Iāve done for my overall wellbeing. I was one of those āit took everything in me each day not to pick a fight with everyone typesā and this has resolved 100%. Itās gone, Iām incredibly resilient to stress, and it takes exponentially more stress to agitate me now. If this is all I gain, itās life changing.
I seem to have better glycogen storage and can go without eating longer. I used to have to snack all day to keep stress at bay and especially to keep my temper in check.
Something Iād like to see change is my tinnitus, no change thereā¦
How Iām doing it: I take relatively large doses at different intervals during the day and taper the doses into evening. For instance, I have 4 tablespoons in 8oz on coffee in the AM, then another 4 tablespoons in a second 8oz of coffee, (this is the extent of my coffee consumption-which again is life altering from the 6-10 cups I drank in the past). I then follow the two coffees with 16oz skim milk with another 4 tablespoons of dextrose. This is a typical ābreakfastā if I hungry I may have a few slices of sourdough. So a total of 12 tablespoons that I āfront-loadā in the AM.
I then no longer need to snack between breakfast and lunch. At lunch I flex between solid food with a beverage with 4 tablespoons of dextrose, or a giant smoothie with 4 tablespoons.
I typically have a smoothie with 4 tablespoons of dextrose around 3pm. Sometimes I donāt feel like I need it.
At dinner I will either add 2-4 tablespoons to my meal, or drink a beverage afterwards with 2-4 tablespoons.
Somewhere before bed Iāll have a snack where I add 2 tablespoons.
On days where I lift weights, (3 days a week) I drink 16oz of a beverage with 8 tablespoons of dextrose, (I sip it between sets, and finish it when I complete the workout).
Recently I decided to take a break from all supplements and I feel pretty good. I may add some back in, but I didnāt lack energy or motivation, (I feel much more resilient).
As a total side note, Iāve looked into fruits with higher ratios of glucose to fructose and Iām finding these fruits to be much more digestible for me, (and I just seem to enjoy them more as well).
So Iām not sure where to go from here. I am sold, this, for me, seems to be a missing link. I always had the same repetitive pattern with bioenergetic substances, (work briefly, eventually stop, lead to constipation). Glucose eliminates the need to balance supplements to avoid that cycle. I would LOVE to eliminate tinnitus, but Iām not sure how much dextrose would be needed to do this. I know Dr Stephens says to up the dose until symptoms subside, but I think Iād like to speak directly to him or someone else before I start pounding more than 8 tablespoons in a single dose, (who knows, maybe Iāll feel confident at some point in the future to expiriment this way).
I think some of us simply donāt convert carbs into glucose, and at least for me, no volume of fruit, starch, or thyroid medicine closed that gap.
Great report Evan! It does seem to work on our moods and attitudes before anything else.
I too still have tinnitus and since Dr Peat said it is caused by gut dysfunction, I've begun a gut protocol along with the glucose to hopefully speed things up. I take gelatin, modified citrus pectin, acacia fiber, metamucil, and bamboo silica activated with lemon (Nathan Hatch gut protocol). I'm also about to make soup stock and try to have some of that daily.
Also, avoiding foods with pesticides and herbicides (glyphosate) is important since these kill beneficial gut bacteria. I know Dr Peat recommended antibiotics to clean up the gut, but I think they can cause more serious problems down the road, so will take them only in an emergency.
Hope you will report back as you're able!
@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@Ecstatic_Hamster said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I'm experiencing stomach upset with all this glucose. I did 25g X 4 yesterday. Any advice?
- Cut back a little and work up slowly. 2) Take homeopathic Nux vomica 30C or homeopathic Ipecac 30C as needed. 3) Mix it in carbonated water. 4) Have some food with your dose.
- Take smaller more frequent doses.
I sometimes need to do all of the above. I also take my doses in organic chocolate milk or lime/lemon water.
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