Posts made by samson

@NARINGENIN high co2 seems to be a big factor. lots of buteyko people say they reduced the amounts they had to sleep

@Pooooop been doing this diet for fat loss with really good results recently, many people say they can drop 10 lbs in a month pretty easily. probably better than a traditional calorie deficit.

https://longestlevers.com/fat-loss/honey-diet.html

@Pooooop t3 usually stimulates appetite. if you can avoid overeating and stay in a deficit, its a good way to ensure your metabolism isn't downregulated during a cut, but its not going to do much other than that for fat loss.

@AnxiousMess what was your dosage? were you measuring temp?

@Norwegian-Mugabe I'll swish some water in my mouth after my last meal/sugary drink at 3, but my tongue has felt actually much cleaner doing the honey diet rather than eating mixed macros throughout the day.

a diet that's so low in phosphorus is pretty protective of teeth, and I get all the fatty vitamins essential for good dental health at night with protein.

I basically just eat small meals all day until 3, a squirt of honey right when i wake up, 450g blueberries and some black coffee with sugar, a glass of orange juice, an energy drink, more honey, etc. usually ends up being around 1500-2k cals worth of sugar, ~3500 cals by the end of the day. I don't think there's anything special about honey besides being an easy source of calories.

haven't even thought about doing a "calorie deficit" as the fat loss has been so effortless, I eat to complete satiety outside of the 3-7 fasting window.

that's my experience but I'd love to hear about @Serotoninskeptic experience as well, if it's any different to mine.

@jamezb46 Good point on the Randle cycle, often gets misconstrued and to my knowledge, it still isn't fully understood.

Certainly a major benefit is lower levels of inflammatory amino acids, I found that when I eat protein and fat at the end of my day, if I drink some gelatinous broth first, and then have some eggs, cheese, milk, etc my breathing is much clearer and I feel more relaxed, whereas if I go right to eggs and cheese and have broth after, I get clogged up. seems like clear sinuses, for me, are a pretty good proxy for inflammation.

@jamezb46 Yeah my numbers have stayed the same, some lifts even getting a little stronger, but we'll see how long that lasts as I continue to drop weight. weighted dips and chin-ups have improved, but I'd attribute that to just getting lighter and not losing muscle. I hit a pr on squats last time I went, so maybe I'm eeking out some gains as well.

started at 195 at around 18% BF, gonna drop 10 lbs and see what I'm looking like then start to bulk again, though trying to put on any significant amount of weight is pretty difficult while maintaining good mental clarity and energy in my experience, protein fasting just make me feel so sharp and energized.

another plus I see with the honey diet is that glycogen stores aren't depleted, so your muscles don't look deflated and you don't get that illusory initial drop in water weight like typically caloric deficit diets.

I've made some coconut oil ice cream so I'll probably just slam that and see where it gets me when the time comes

@Terminator autechre, tim hecker, coil. go album mode for increased awesomeness

@jamezb46 seems plausible from an evolution standpoint, but not necessarily bad right? just because there's an adaptive response doesn't make it harmful unless proven otherwise.

I do think there are lots of factors for why a healthy human would only eat fruit for large swaths of the day, and gorge on fat and meat at night, if that's the paradigm we're thinking in, however.

also, it's not like you are totally deprived of amino acids during the sugar phase, transamination and amination both synthesize amino acids from keto acids in fruit, with the added benefit of lowering serum ammonia levels through (berries, citrus, pineapples all have precursors to α-ketoglutarate, which is bound to NH3 thus reducing amino levels)

I lift pretty religiously and haven't seen any reduction in strength, or slowing of progress for that matter, despite my weight dropping, so no catabolic action from protein fasting. pretty cool to be able to recomp as an intermediate actually

@IkeIkeforever progesterone is pretty safe and sold in any vitamin shop in the US. if you're interested in cynomel (T3) Danny Roddy has some good stuff simplifying it.
https://dannyroddy.substack.com/p/demystifying-thyroid-supplementation
here's rays article about progesterone as well
https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/three-hormones.shtml

You can also use the low-toxin forum as a resource for testimonials. used to be the ray peat forum but got bought by a crazy retard, unfortunately.

"______ low toxin forum" in google or whatever will bring up relevant forum posts, since you need to pay to search in site.

@jamezb46 not sure where anabology got to isoleucine specifically actually. this study about fgf21 says that they were able to replicate the metabolism-boosting effect of restricting a myriad of individual amino acids.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8761941/

@IkeIkeforever not sure what country you're based in but https://www.meds.com.mx/product_reviews_info.php/products_id/2931/reviews_id/39 is where i got my cynomel. really one of the most impactful sups I've taken. progesterone also helps greatly with a sense of general rage I felt (I work in the service industry, no shortage of retards whose head one might want to rip off)

it might be worth swapping the d3 with a chicken lamp and a red light setup, I find i get a comparable sense of well-being getting blasted by lamps when the sun isn't available.

@IkeIkeforever try to get 3 solid poops a day lol. know it sounds trite but having good gut motility really does wonders for the mind. cascara, carrot salad, thyroid supplementation all helped me with this. would probably help with the appetite too, you sound hypothyroid.

I doubt a doctor would give you any help, many people go to doctors with these kinds of "psychosomatic" issues and get laughed at to their face, or worse prescribed some sort of antidepressant.

you need to figure out some sort of vision for how you want your life to look in 5 years and find actionable steps you can take to achieve it. read rays work on learned helplessness, sounds like you have a pretty bad case. getting stronger, accumulating small wins in the gym can help with this is the short term.

Expect miracles and they will come!

@nothingclever I made some methylene blue mixed in tallow, coconut oil, honey, and beeswax and its amazing. healed some long standing acne scars on my face. yuka is a good app to check products for poison if you don't feel like making it yourself.

@nothingclever topical application of androsterone improved my natural odor greatly, even after I stopped using it. I suspect that stress hormones mediate smelly pits in some way, when I feel good I smell good. haven't used deodorant in many months and I ask my friends frequently to tell me if I smell, they say they never noticed anything.

@Serotoninskeptic I've been running this for the past few weeks and really been feeling the positive effects of protein restriction. I think it's important to note that eating only glucose/fructose upregulates FGF21 expression via isoleucine restriction, and such high serum fructose reduces phosphate levels by 30-50% according to this study.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11036473/
so getting super high dietary calcium as many peaters recommend is probably less necessary.

an unexpected result was that I find myself urinating much less, and when I do, I have very little foaming, which would probably be expected when consuming low protein. I will admit that the fasting portion of the diet is pretty brutal, especially coming from drinking milk by the quart, but i think you'd get the same antiinflammation and metabolism-boosting effects, just without the weight loss omitting it.

It's also notable that my nasal passages are much less swollen, for my whole life I've only been able to breathe through one nostril at a time but now I can breathe through both almost all day, but with my last meal, they swell up again.

you should try it out and see for yourself!

@William-Shat retard shit. nuke your thyroid with lugols iodine lol. also free test levels basically useless without shbg, dht, estrogen, prolactin, etc...

@Pooooop growth hormone is a stress hormone that promotes the liberation of fatty acids in the bloodstream. one of the main benefits of carb intake is lower growth hormone.

any food cooked with love is metabolic

@waterbottle 1mg of any androgen one time would absolutely not cause any difference in muscle mass. did you increase your protein intake? Leucine can increase muscle protein synthesis