Posts made by samson

@IkeIkeforever amazing! thanks for sharing

@PEATCEL I do agree that the practical application of peaty diets aren't that crazy, but peating isn't just eating X food at X amount or frequency or whatever, its dynamic and constantly adaptioning to your own personal context. if you just have a static meal plan that doesn't evolve with you, then I don't think that's really peating. Definitely possible you've heard this but it bears repeating.

If I had to pin down specific guidelines, it would be something like
1 avoid pufa
2 eat a higher carb ratio to fats in a given meal
3 eat enough calcium to balance phos
4 eat protein sources with a balanced amino acid profile
5 get your necessary micronutrients in reasonable amounts

almost no normie is consciously doing 1-4

Instagram wooden cutting board zoomers are not peating just because they follow paul salidino and eat eggs and kiwis, or drink lots of coffee.

quantitative vs qualitative relationships

@PEATCEL Most peat egirls seem to be attractive idk, Im no chad but I think I'm pretty good looking by the standards of men on the internet lol, 5'11 190lbs at like 12% bf, good facial symmetry blah blah. The most beautiful peaty people will be the children of peaters, not the first generation imo

@Corngold try it and report back if you're still able to see. gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet right?

@Corngold no why would you do that lmao. sublingual aniprin would probably be the fastest route if that's ur goal

@alfredoolivas Gilbert Ling spearheaded the idea, he's who I'd start with. but anyone in the bioenergetic tradition tastily opposes the sodium receptor theory. Ling, Szent-Gyorgyi, Selye, and Warburg are all researchers whose work opposes the idea of a cell membrane with receptors. not sure if you're just new to the space, but this is something many "peaters" who go beyond simple dietary or supplement recommendations talk about, peat has talked a lot about it in interviews as well. If I remember correctly he even wrote to Ling in the 50s asking for career advice and talking about the difficulty he had integrating into the rigid platonism of academia.

if you search "membrane" or other related terms here you'll find plenty of clips of peat speaking on the subject
https://bioenergetic.life

@alfredoolivas I'm not saying that you dont have potentially valuable contributions to the metabolic approach to health. It's clear you are knowledgeable about granular aspects of biochem research. My point is that you are losing sight of the forest focusing on the trees. other users have already made this point, but it bears repeating. This is the entire point of abandoning the receptor theory of the cell.

even your point about me joking that certain books should be mandatory reading being labeled as "authoritarian" pretty perfectly exemplifies this tendency. Using definitions and minutia to obfuscate the whole is precisely the scientism I'm talking about.

wishing you good health!

@alfredoolivas you are clearly heavily indoctrinated into the scientism of the medical industry, you have a lot of unlearning to do if you want to engage with peats work in any meaningful way. In vivo and the gay science should be mandatory reading for this forum lol

@sushi_is_cringe XD

@alfredoolivas glp 1 agonistis also have the "side effect" of giving you cancer and shredding skeletal and cardiac muscle.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452302X24002869
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3920789/

where are you getting that ozempic stops the stress response?

@alfredoolivas trolling putting ozempic in S tier

@Tarzan17 wake up before sunrise and slam honey and OJ? does that count? would salt/electrolytes be seen as acceptable? if so id say some calcium, magnesium, salt water would probably be good

@NARINGENIN high co2 seems to be a big factor. lots of buteyko people say they reduced the amounts they had to sleep

@Pooooop been doing this diet for fat loss with really good results recently, many people say they can drop 10 lbs in a month pretty easily. probably better than a traditional calorie deficit.

https://longestlevers.com/fat-loss/honey-diet.html

@Pooooop t3 usually stimulates appetite. if you can avoid overeating and stay in a deficit, its a good way to ensure your metabolism isn't downregulated during a cut, but its not going to do much other than that for fat loss.

@AnxiousMess what was your dosage? were you measuring temp?

@Norwegian-Mugabe I'll swish some water in my mouth after my last meal/sugary drink at 3, but my tongue has felt actually much cleaner doing the honey diet rather than eating mixed macros throughout the day.

a diet that's so low in phosphorus is pretty protective of teeth, and I get all the fatty vitamins essential for good dental health at night with protein.

I basically just eat small meals all day until 3, a squirt of honey right when i wake up, 450g blueberries and some black coffee with sugar, a glass of orange juice, an energy drink, more honey, etc. usually ends up being around 1500-2k cals worth of sugar, ~3500 cals by the end of the day. I don't think there's anything special about honey besides being an easy source of calories.

haven't even thought about doing a "calorie deficit" as the fat loss has been so effortless, I eat to complete satiety outside of the 3-7 fasting window.

that's my experience but I'd love to hear about @Serotoninskeptic experience as well, if it's any different to mine.

@jamezb46 Good point on the Randle cycle, often gets misconstrued and to my knowledge, it still isn't fully understood.

Certainly a major benefit is lower levels of inflammatory amino acids, I found that when I eat protein and fat at the end of my day, if I drink some gelatinous broth first, and then have some eggs, cheese, milk, etc my breathing is much clearer and I feel more relaxed, whereas if I go right to eggs and cheese and have broth after, I get clogged up. seems like clear sinuses, for me, are a pretty good proxy for inflammation.

@jamezb46 Yeah my numbers have stayed the same, some lifts even getting a little stronger, but we'll see how long that lasts as I continue to drop weight. weighted dips and chin-ups have improved, but I'd attribute that to just getting lighter and not losing muscle. I hit a pr on squats last time I went, so maybe I'm eeking out some gains as well.

started at 195 at around 18% BF, gonna drop 10 lbs and see what I'm looking like then start to bulk again, though trying to put on any significant amount of weight is pretty difficult while maintaining good mental clarity and energy in my experience, protein fasting just make me feel so sharp and energized.

another plus I see with the honey diet is that glycogen stores aren't depleted, so your muscles don't look deflated and you don't get that illusory initial drop in water weight like typically caloric deficit diets.

I've made some coconut oil ice cream so I'll probably just slam that and see where it gets me when the time comes

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