In this human study using 1.5g/day, they saw some liver fat reduction, but unfortunetly no change in weight. So not all the benefits of the OP study seem to translate to humans. https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/2872/camu-camu-decreases-hepatic-steatosis-and-liver-injury-markers-in-overweight-hypertriglyceridemic-individuals-a-randomized-crossover-trial?_=1788701319075

@Mauritio said: @crumblingcookie any new insights ? Yes. Hesperitin seems good and yielding more energy throughout the day in a calm, non-exciting manner through its mitochondria-boosting MoA. Have been taking c. 500mg twice daily. I've been wondering, though, whether the second dose may already be too much (for me in my condition). Still curious about how hesperitin fares in healthier folks in comparison with hesperidin from bergamot extract. Naringin/GSE. Some drops on the tongue quickly made the tongue look rosier and fresher each time. Maybe a good thing before going out and french kissing. Disodium EDTA. Had started with 100mg, then went to 250mg, then 500mg and ultimately 750mg on an empty stomach once daily. Caveat: Really strong chelator of Ca in practice; soon my feet started aching all day as if I had been on a 10miles hike the day before. I suspect decalcification of the foot bones. It still lasted after stopping Na2-EDTA. Distinct improvements each time after supplementing calcium but tbh I can still feel it a month later. Nystatin. IMO 2.5M units (five tablets) four times daily is plenty and there's no use of doing any more like the 5M QID I did. The pharmacy tablets are probably fine. If there's no positive effect from 2-2.5M QID I suggest to look for a different cause. Beyond that, fluconazole for three weeks appears to be a reasonable diagnostic trial or probatory treatment wrt harbouring suspicions of a fungal infection which cannot (yet) be ascertained in other ways, as per Satish Rao MD's proceedings. Although when in suspicion of any extramucosal/extraintestinal fungal involvement I'd escalatate that to 400mg pd instead of a mere 100mg. On the plus side, I really seem to be quite free from any Candida and intestinal biofilm. On the downside, all miseries perdure and it's come to light to actually be Cryptococcus disseminated to the brain and cerebrospinal fluid. With the utter dysfunctioning of GI mechanism sort of a last link in the chain of progressive systemic impairments; a final nail in the coffin by general immune exhaustion or centrally-mediated nervous deregulation (reminiscent of that 1930s study where they cut the CNS connection to the ENS). Ah, fun(!) times. What a curveball. Finally explains the headaches beyond all bearing and other things. Doing 700mg pd fluconazole rn while the public health services are passing the buck between factual denial and each other's possible responsibilities and my hopes and expectations in them being severely muted. In addition, the clinical guidelines handed about are piss-poor and in stark divergence with what's actually known.

@CrumblingCookie Oh yeah, youre right. Thanks for pointing that out. I still find it interesting. Antrodia camphorata The fungus I mentioned, is available as a supplement .

Pure aspirin powder, especially when dissolved cleanly in warm water or a metabolic substrate like orange juice is absorbed primarily in the upper GI tract, ensuring it never reaches the small intestine as a concentrated solid. The aspirin in this study and the ones like it utilize enteric coated aspirin. Known as Bayaspirin the enteric coating utilizes methacrylic acid copolymer, often branded as Eudragit, along with other excipients like Titanium Dioxide, plasticizers, and synthetic dyes. Pretty nasty, pretty irritating especially a concentrated, focused amount of it on the intestinal lining. This kinda crap reminds of the 1918 or so studies where enormous amounts of aspirin were used and it was then said aspirin was terrible for the body.

@pondfountain chronic caffeine consumption negates the Ach-increasing effects of caffeine. Chronic caffeine treatment reduces caffeine but not adenosine effects on cortical acetylcholine release The results indicate that prolonged consumption of high doses of caffeine causes changes in the responsiveness of cholinergic neurons to caffeine. The change is not shared by adenosine, through whose recognition sites caffeine is believed to act. It is therefore possible that the adaptive changes following repeated caffeine administration involve either only the coupler-transducer mechanism activated by the antagonist, or effects unrelated to receptors.

You’ll see that, in addition to any androgen binding to GR, you’ll have two potent anti-catabolic factors: mTOR and PGC-1α; GR negatively regulates both To put it very simply, REDD1 negatively regulates mTOR, and FOXO1 is largely regulated by PGC-1α. Although they function “separately,” they can converge since REDD1 not only inhibits mTOR but also increases FOXO1. You can make them resistant to catabolism by inhibiting FOXO1, and abolish the effects of GCs by inhibiting REDD1. Not surprisingly, type 1 fibers—rich in mitochondria and OXPHOS—are resistant to stress-induced atrophy (glucocorticoids, energy deprivation, etc.) but are also resistant to hypertrophy. Glycolytic fibers, on the other hand, which are prone to energy deficits because they have few mitochondria and rely on glycolysis, are sensitive to stress but are also sensitive to hypertrophy due to greater GR and AR density. [image: 1786057988696-d19493b6-4e2d-43de-ad03-f365e0eb848c-image.jpeg]

@Ena Re: antifungal/antimicrobial effect of lovastatin. It looks like lovastatin (LOV) potentiates other antifungals rather than having that effect by itself. "LOV single treatment was unable to inhibit C. albicans strains except the ERG3 and ERG11 double mutant. LOV and itraconazole (ITZ) combination was capable of inhibiting the C. albicans planktonic cells and biofilms synergistically including the ITZ resistant mutants." --- From the abstract to Lovastatin synergizes with itraconazole against planktonic cells and biofilms of Candida albicans through the regulation on ergosterol biosynthesis pathway.

There is also morphogenic resonance going on of the Ray Peat ideas thoughts energetic expressions consciousness and all. The more of us talking about these ideas working towards pro metabolic higher metabolic lives etc… we are spreading these ideas into the Aether and scientists influencers kids people are getting seeded these ideas and they resonate with them. Resonance, it happens constantly in culture, through marketing magic but also just by morphogenic fields. I mean people are trending towards rays ideas because they are more or less the right direction of full spectrum truth. And big brains like Georgi and some of the folks here are broadcasting electron flow awareness out to the universe! Grab a tank of co2 and a glass of milk and tune in! Plagiarism is constantly an annoying part of life also.

@sunsunsun Yeah but the point is that the spoons are inaccurate for the exact reason you mentioned XD as well as density etc

@haidut I am wondering if it is really inflammation that is causing mitochondrial dysfunction and not the other way around. I have a large store of bacteria that I keep having to kill and each time there is a kill plenty of endotoxins are released and they are a major source of inflammation. And it suppresses mitochondrial activity to the point that even the conversion of cholesterol to pregnenolone and downstream prosuction of hormones and steroids are very much affected. To such effect that taking hormones like thyroid and pregnenolone and progesterone can hardly make a dent. I had to inhibit the nfkb inflammatory response using turmeric and black pepper in order to see my cholesterol level go down and my hormonal production go up. But it is hard to keep endotoxins low when there is a large colony of pathogenic microbes and in my case it is feom periodontal infection having translocated to my vascular and lymphatic system where it get more embedded over time especially as it gets protected by biofilms. One way I see out of this conundrum of killing pathogens by relying on our endogenous ROS from our own innate immune system and from use of pharma antibiotics or herbal antibacterials,, which all end up producing endotoxins; is to engage antibacterial peptides such as LL-37 in neutrophils and macrophages - to kill pathogens with the benefit of not leaving behind endotoxins that both inflame and cause oxidative stress. More sunshine to produce high levels of Vitamin D (50-80 ng/dl) together with plenty of butyric acid in the gut gives the body a high endogenous supply of LL-37 to achieve effective antimicrobial activity without endotoxic side effects.

So then, Mitolipin to the rescue

Looks like Picard's work supports the "rate of living theory". For example, in his Cellular allostatic load is linked to increased energy expenditure and accelerated biological aging hypermetabolism, defined as "increased energy expenditure", it is concluded that "a robust and specific temporal association be­tween hypermetabolism and premature cell death, aligning with pro­spective observations in the human literature where hypermetabolism increases mortality risk. Finally, our experimental modulation of OxPhos and total J_ATP suggest that total energy expenditure, rather than flux through mitochondrial OxPhos, may have a particularly influential ef­fect on cellular aging". Hmm... but the references that they use could be mined further for some gems.