What else could it be causing a reaction to it?
histamine if you lack DAO (> 150 / 250 U / day, not every day).
liver if you can't manage xanthine. (tea, coffee, cola, chocolate, cranberry / purple grape juice).
More than 20-25 mg niacin.
Dandruff or scalp irritation? Try BLOO.
What else could it be causing a reaction to it?
histamine if you lack DAO (> 150 / 250 U / day, not every day).
liver if you can't manage xanthine. (tea, coffee, cola, chocolate, cranberry / purple grape juice).
More than 20-25 mg niacin.
@Kvirion said in Increasing caffeine tolerance/metabolism?:
"Very small doses of caffeine have a paradoxical sedative effect, but this is a familiar effect of anything which raises the brain's energy level." - Nutrition For Women, Ray Peat, PhD
Not for everyone whenever you feel anxious. Caffeine is anxiogenic and not appropriate when your diaphragm tells you you'd better change your mind and try to relax.
However, this is a transitory effect. And by the way, coffee, even with a lot sugar and milk, is not all black or white. I agree that caffeine is pro-metabolic but not in every situation, and only if you don't suffer from surrenals ...
I can give a link if interested.
@MuleMan said in 3 grains and still hypothyroid?:
I just need a lot more thyroid than usual and need to continue increasing my dose until I'm euthyroid;
I have an explanation but to "believe" it, I advise you to read Lynne Farrow and best Dr Vincent Reliquet (The power of iodine, in French).
=> lack of iodine could be the the missing link, even if you get iodine from fish and seefood. The place on the receptors of your thyroid could be occupied by halogens (Br, Cl Fl). Mind detox if ... Need cofactors too.
I can develop further if you're receptive, and ready to take a 180° turnaround, by not listening to mainstream official advise (influenced by the lobbying pharma). Nothing to do with a conspiracy theory
Only logical arguments based on "scientific" facts. But not on a real double-blind study.
@pittybitty said in Hypothyroid->Digestion Issues->Allergies->Adrenaline->Insomnia:
What can I do to ensure that the adrenaline does as little damage as possible? Eat large amounts of sugar so that less protein needs to be cannibalized to raise the blood sugar? Protein to offset the loss? High B vitamins to ensure sugar metabolism works without a issue?
@Insr said in Iodine - too much!:
I read in this article that when the thyroid's exposed to an excessive amount of iodine and it damages the thyroid, there is a momentary release of thyroid hormones into the blood from the destroyed thyroid tissue.
=> Interpretation
Dr. Izabella Wentz says :
Iodine needs to be processed by the thyroid gland, and when the thyroid is inflamed, the processing of iodine will likely produce more inflammation. If you give an angry and overwhelmed organ more work to do, you’ll likely see it become even angrier!
A person may feel more energetic when first starting an iodine supplement, but lab tests will reveal that their “new energy” is coming from the destruction of thyroid tissue, which dumps thyroid hormone into the circulation. Reports will show an elevated TSH, elevated thyroid antibodies, and in some cases, low levels of active thyroid hormones.
This is why I don’t generally recommend iodine supplements to people with Hashimoto’s. I don’t believe that the short-term artificial boost in energy is worth destroying your thyroid gland!
My comment:
=> You don’t have to take iodine for boosting the energy level but because you don’t get the required nutrient (I2 and KI) when taking NDT or only T4. You need an appropriate level of iodine in other tissues than the thyroid.
Before taking iodine, we need selenium to limit the action (anti-inflammatory). And as iodine has a powerful action as anti-microbial, anti-inflammatory effects, residues from LPS will be discharged, as well other toxins from the gland and the blood.
You can’t manage without a tiny amount of iodine. But first we have to begin very slowly, particularly to acclimate / open the symporters NIS, a kind of pump to exchange Na/I.
For sure, some people will react badly, especially if you never or seldom eat fish or seafood.
Finally, let me recall that women need iodine in breast: 1/7 or 1/8 will caught a bad issue if they don’t.
Sources:
@SpaceManJim said in Increasing caffeine tolerance/metabolism?:
Is cortisol/stress known to mess with liver function, metabolism of things like caffeine?
Excess cortisol suppresses thyroid action through impact on surrenals . First sign of Burnout...
@Peatful
Sorry, it was adressed to MooseZoomer. Wrong handle / manip.
@Peatful
Hi,
You're suffering from low inflammation grade.
Taking a supplement T3 and T4 when you metabolize badly / insufficiently won't solve the problem on a long term.
If you've got too much estrogen (fatty belly) or high cortisol (stress), some endocrine disruptors, a lack of useful nutrients for your thyroid, you won't recover.
Not exhaustive.
@happyhanneke said in Please critique my lab results.:
Any comments or thoughts are appreciated.
Hi, when modifying the dose, do it progressivity, on a 10 - 15 days period. Cut the dose on every other day.
Taking levothyroxine won't solve the problem on long term if you can convert T4 to T3 and FT3. You need useful nutrient for deodinases to help the conversion. + iodine (I2 & potassium iodide) for other organs and tissues. I can develop if desired.
@chosroes said in Iodine - too much!:
Did the naturopath in the OP video provide sources for the low iodine study, anywhere? Couldn't see anything on his website.
I won't watch a video that says iodine above RDA is dangerous . Try to countre-act the mainstream "idea". See the link beneath.
Signs of iodine deficiency
Main signs of iodine deficiency leading to metabolic disorders in adults
Apart from usual symptoms as goiter enlargement, hypothyroidism, impairment of mental function, spontaneous hyperthyroidism in the elderly, Drs David Reliquet and David Minkoff mentions additional symptoms like reduced alertness & slow metabolism leading to fatigue, sluggishness, apathy, depression and insomnia; lack of optimal detoxification, particularly of bromides, fluorides and heavy metals; sensitivity to temperature changes, cold hands and feet; muscle pain, etc.
80. Optimum Health Report #334 – Dr. David Minkoff, Medical Director.
https://www.lifeworkswellnesscenter.com/health-blog/health-products/optimum-health-report-334.html
The Need for Iodine Supplementation - by Wojciech Rychlik, Ph.D.
@amizon said in Iodine - too much!:
I had a CT with iodine contrast last week. Afterward I initially felt great actually, really warm and energetic. But this week I feel the worst I've felt in years.
Logical. Counter-reaction. Your symporters / conveyors were probably asleep when you got the contrast product with iodine. What wasn't used / assimilated (90%) had to be dealt / evacuated. Too much for the liver. So, you felt sick.
Next time (not before 4 weeks), you'll probably assimilate 50 % if you take iodorate (R) 12.5 mg. Need both K2 and IK.
I'd drink 100 ml (3.5 oz) water with 1/4 tsp sodium (1.2 g) and and more water 100 ml x 2 or 3 every 30-45' to go and pee, until you feel better.
Bicarbonate sodium would be better than NaCl, of course.
@pittybitty
Yes. Well sumerized.
I understand your need for concentration and Time to deal with the info.
@pittybitty said in Hypothyroid->Digestion Issues->Allergies->Adrenaline->Insomnia:
Ate extra Carbs and now I am happy again
Ok, fine. Need for potassium should be optimized to avoid / limit insulin spike.
When taking carbs, B1 B2 B3 + biotin should be brought from food or supplement.
Not necessary every day.
@pittybitty said in Hypothyroid->Digestion Issues->Allergies->Adrenaline->Insomnia:
I can also do a bit of controlled breathing to increase CO2 but don't find it particularly relaxing.
CO2 is more to optimize metabolism here. Usually not perceived at the beginning. Simply dee p breeze when walking (downside of the stomach).
I'd read the link to see if you feel concerned, whenever 3 symptoms are present.
Signs of iodine deficiency
Main signs of iodine deficiency leading to metabolic disorders in adults:
Apart from usual symptoms as goiter enlargement, hypothyroidism, impairment of mental function, spontaneous hyperthyroidism in the elderly, Drs David Reliquet and David Minkoff mentions additional symptoms like reduced alertness & slow metabolism leading to fatigue, sluggishness, apathy, depression and insomnia; lack of optimal detoxification, particularly of bromides, fluorides and heavy metals; sensitivity to temperature changes, cold hands and feet; muscle pain, etc.
Source:
80. Optimum Health Report #334 – Dr. David Minkoff, Medical Director.
https://www.lifeworkswellnesscenter.com/health-blog/health-products/optimum-health-report-334.html
The Need for Iodine Supplementation - by Wojciech Rychlik, Ph.D.
@BigBeansMcGee
cheese and ham. Mind E250-255 (nitrites), and acid-base balance (K).
Sauerkraut for fiber.
Mind excess histamine with these 3 kinds. 150-200 units / day. Only one choice among these ones.
There is no RP diet but only guide lines for optimizing energy and a wealthy state. Problem if you dont metabolize carbs well ...
@Insr said in Iodine - too much!:
doesn't the typical person's constant exposure to halogens (and goitrogens like soy) make their thyroid take in less iodine? So would that mean that person could handle a higher iodine intake without getting iodine excess problems,
If the iodine in unable to reach the gland, you've got less T3 and T4.
Now let's suppose you've taken NDT, the problem will be differed. You feel better for a while (rather in months, sometimes 2-3 or 5 years) ...
To be able to capture iodine, and to dislodge halogens from the thyroid, you have to deal with a 3 side-action, at the same time, under the supervision of your health practitioner because you're going to doubt ...
The technique of sodium saturation (if your kidneys are OK). to pee and evacuate the toxins captured. This is called " Sodium loading protocol". See Lynne Farrow's book for details.
Nutrients are needed too, as Vit A, C B12 D3 E; HD riboflavin & niacin, Zn (+ sufficient Ca Mg Mb)
You have to familiarize with Herxheimer crisis (how to deal with detox when LPS are overloading the liver).
have Iodine K1 and KI (potassium iodine) from Iodorate 12.5 and 50 mg (50 000 mcg).
PS: I'm not going to detail the protocol further.
Useful info (from Dr. Vincent Reliquet), I cite him:
The thyroid and skin almost only use iodides of the KI type, or potassium iodide, the form of supplementation found for example in iodized table salt. But the breast, prostate, ovary and brain need molecular iodine type I2. The kidney, spleen, liver, blood, salivary glands, intestines and muscles all require a joint supply in both forms. The fight against cancer, probably also. And all these organs are abandoned to their sad deiodized fate...
@Insr said in Iodine - too much!:
I have some gum inflammation at times.
I'd try green tea mouth bath. I did it with a 15' infusion 3-4 times a day. keep it 3-4' in mouth.
@Insr said in Bloodwork shows elevated TPOAb (Hashimoto's disease):
Is it really iodine?
By the way, I just recently tried an experiment where I increased the iodine back up to see what would happen and it made me feel awful, very low thyroid feeling.
Iodine overload can cause transient hypothyroidism, due to a protective mechanism. This is the whole point of progressiveness...
For other readers:
Even if overload only occurs in 10% of people who started with a high dosage. The NIS symporters should have been acclimatized/re-educated before taking Lugol 1% 10 mg or Iodoral 12.5 mg.
Vocabulary: Na/I symport (NIS), or sodium/iodide symport, is a transmembrane glycoprotein catalyzing the active transport of circulating iodide and participating in the synthesis of thyroid hormones.
Edit:
A high dosage of iodine will dislodge/drive away the halogens attached to the thyroid gland, causing an overload in blood circulation. The liver is then unable to process residual molecules derived from bromine, chlorine or fluorine. This makes people sick ...
@Insr said in Bloodwork shows elevated TPOAb (Hashimoto's disease):
Thank you! I've switched to sea salt.
Hi,
Salt is not the right kind for iodine: quick evaporation (not stable and it contains Cl => halogen).
We need two kinds of iodine: I2 and KI. See Lynne Farrow if you want to understand why.