"Green tea inhibits Helicobacter growth in vivo and in vitro" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2694061/ Mice were infected with H. pylori and given either tea or water. The group that was given tea had both greatly reduced inflammation and H. pylori population. In fact, mice that were given tea both before and after the infection had no inflammation and no H. pylori population at all. I suspect it is the L-Theanine in the tea but nobody has studied that so I have no proof. I think so because high dose L-Theanine completely suppresses H. pylori symptoms for me.

@springsnow haiduts arguments are that most of the benefit comes from restricting inflammatory amino acids like methionine. This seems to be in line with studies that show all the benefits of calorie restriction just with protein restriction.

@DavidPS the satiety one is interesting since milk has been traditionally considered a breakfast item. Another piece of evidence as to why people used to be much leaner.

See the reference 3 Glutathione Depletion Prevents Diet-Induced Obesity and Enhances Insulin Sensitivity Hannes M. Findeisen et al. 2012 https://doi.org/10.1038/oby.2011.298 Abstract Excessive accumulation of reactive oxygen species (ROS) in adipose tissue has been implicated in the development of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. However, emerging evidence suggests a physiologic role of ROS in cellular signaling and insulin sensitivity. In this study, we demonstrate that pharmacologic depletion of the antioxidant glutathione in mice prevents diet-induced obesity, increases energy expenditure and locomotor activity, and enhances insulin sensitivity. These observations support a beneficial role of ROS in glucose homeostasis and warrant further research to define the regulation of metabolism and energy balance by ROS. Excerpt (…) Since glutathione peroxidase (GPx) constitutes the principal antioxidant defense system to scavenge physiological concentrations of H2O2 in mammals (6), we investigated in this study the role of pharmacological glutathione depletion on diet-induced obesity and insulin sensitivity. Surprisingly, depletion of endogenous glutathione protected mice from obesity, preserved insulin sensitivity, and increased energy expenditure, pointing to a more complex role of endogenous ROS in diabetes and energy balance than previously anticipated. => There is a contradiction and a bias in the title as well in the abstract. To be reminded: too much of a good thing is bad. No need for more than 2x/wk 100 mcg. Diet with meat and eggs brings +/ 50 % of the RDA. Supplement is only bioavailable at +/ 60%. More info (In French, translator needed) https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1953-selenium-too-much-of-a-good-thing-is-bad#27971 => Selenium forms, bioavailability, enzymatic functions, synergy with other antioxidants, Sources and References.

OJ for the Win !

@stag wtf i love emf now

@LucH Thanks. There are caveats and gotchas and fine prints as well as times when these are overlooked by sellers, marketers, YouTube "experts" that are a dime a dozen, and there are people who just wing it and cross their fingers and go banzai. And unknowingly commit harikiri. Just hoping they don't.

@alfredoolivas ok, I will try. I have only tried in milk and in cooking with smaller amounts of hot water and it didn't work well.

@otto -Awesome

@NoeticJuice lovely reply boss

@rpc There is a lot of truth to the idea of persistency in microbial infections, especially when we deal with symbiotic microbes that can evade our immune system. These symbiotes evolve to a stronger colony as they gain more microbes to give them more armor from the newfound strength from new microbes in the colony. Which is to say that if we practice good hygiene and know how to provide our own preemptive defenses we essentially are nipping at the bud the ability of pathogenic microbes to be persistent. But our body themselves are a mixture of microbes that in a good environment can coexist together and balance each other out to keep any microbes from dominating. It is when the terrain is not a healthy one that some microbes could become dominant, and a microbe that used to be harmless and healthfully useful could become pathogenic when the terrain condition favor it far more than the rest of the community of microbes, called the microbiome. I see this kind of dynamic in my pet cats. When we'll cared for, I do not have to worry about an infestation of ticks even when these cats do their fair share of getting outside my home. This contrasts a lot with when I knew nothing about caring for pets and my cat and dog were always infested, and I had to give them shampoos which later on I found out made them did early because they had poisons in them. I can draw a parallel in my experience with my pets to my own experience. Knowing the right principles goes a long way in keeping us free from whatever disease, whether it is infectious or degenerative (as they are distinguished conventionally from one another but the line is blurred but I digress). Reddit has a lot of techies and techies cater towards the thinking of people like Dave Asprey and less to people like Ray Peat. Though each have their share of redemptive qualities as irredeemable faults, but that a matter of opinion, as I would say when I believe in things considered controversial. And health and medicine tend to bring people into irreconcilable differences. You agree with Ray Peat about viruses- that they exist. The article expounds on viruses, and favors the use of vaccines. I do not, as I find in nature already mechanisms that bring about the balance that makes viruses and vaccines an unnecessary appendage of a vibrant ecosystem that continually develops towards superior beings over time, as we were made by God to become.