@Hearthfire I think you misunderstand how to work with some varieties of sick patients.
That’s ok. Just don’t assume that any part of my comment was ”magical thinking,” I’m speaking in practical contexts…
Yeah duh I could’ve gone back to IF and sub 1000 calories a day for a year and lost weight, and my cortisol and estrogenic symptoms would’ve only gotten worse. I had to quit my demanding job because of how sick I had become… there was no practical reason to try losing weight in that context. Sub800 cals on carnivore stopped working for weight loss. This is why my comment you responded to was filled with “practical”
Ray himself talked about this. There are obese people consuming 600 cals a day not able to lose weight. I was there. Cortisol and estrogen dominance have real impacts. You go lower in cals for those people and you could be ARE creating catastrophic downline effects. So many systems are beyond f’d at this point that to talk weight loss regime is insulting.
Your paradigm is built on studies of cohorts that includes inevitable failure rates with no further inquiry as to why they failed — that is Peats area of expertise, and where I found substantial help to my issues so I could finally lose weight again.
In Broda Barnes’ book he notes it’s virtually impossible to lose weight when temps are very low.
CICO is Le fail:
https://youtu.be/mif1GaSN13A?si=KK-hQPLjJuzwwTYw
