@Bling5 maybe you could introduce this lady to an article from Ray Peat? maybe a video from young and sexy scientist Kyle Mamounis may be more convincing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXQmBZhaJb8
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RE: thoughts on this vid from foid saying seed oil harmless
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RE: Calorie deficit but gaining fat?
FYI Dairy is only nutrients. Cooked veggies can be great.
yeah i saw the rat studies with how they lost fat on coca cola. show me anyone who has done that and thrived.
Me.
and i dont think fruit should be meals. fruit can accompany a meal and help with digestion (e.g. digestive enzymes in pineapple etc.) but it is a waste of an opportunity to make fruit a meal. again talking about body recomp an performance. not leisurely vacation diet. you would get way more out of using that opportunity to get nutrient density in.
Wonderful point. The most consistent way to improve metabolism and digestion is a well balanced macro meal. Including balancing micronutrients when possible.
Isolated fruit/sugar sources are fine as a snack — but I’ve found a tiny bit of protein in some form, to be handy between meals to balance high carb snacks.
add cooked leaves and cabbages and bell peppers and lettuces and stuff. ive never experienced the downsides of these that people on rpf postulated about for years. in fact i did way better when i added all this stuff i took out after browsing rpf and taking ray's words too literally and personally
Cooked veggies with all the tasty cofactors like a smidge of butter and cheese are great, and a great way to increase salt and gelatin intake in a palatable manner. There are methods to producing the vegetable stock in a safe manner, but for many people, including myself, something like cabbage is very powerfully anti-thyroid. For many people like myself, almost any amount of nightshades like bell peppers are terrible on digestion and brain fog. Of course I want to live my life so I trial and error where I can get away with something to make enjoyable food, but due to the anti nutrient factors, that’s very important for anyone to be aware of. If I were OP, I think it would behoove to look for recipes that remove goitrogens and phytoestrogens — be that boiling for x time and tossing the water, etc.
With that said, there is no nutrient missing from a diet of weekly oysters and liver, with daily dairy and juice consumption — way cheaper, too.
You may have a decent metabolism/resilient digestion, and the amounts you’re consuming aren’t impacting you. I know there are suggestions Ray makes that I don’t stick to religiously, and that’s where I’ve learned to be mindful of context (that basically means “what can I get away with lol”).
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RE: Calorie deficit but gaining fat?
@revenant using t3 and t4… it took around half a year — about a full year at this point to get consistency and have stress resilience. For some this can take longer, and some nuances for how to go about it. I would definitely get a consult about thyroid usage with Danny Roddy, Jay Feldman, or Mike Fave, if you haven’t already.
One nuance — Was your cholesterol high when you started it?
One simple one is increasing your salt intake (if you haven’t already) — that can take some time to reach optimal levels
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RE: Calorie deficit but gaining fat?
Danny Roddy shared Broda Barnes’ findings that you can’t lose weight no matter the attempt, when your temps are low enough. CICO methods don’t help. Optimal scenario, You just burn water weight, which promptly returns the minute you restore carbs, or just die of a stroke before you reach your dream body.
Ray shared case studies on obese women who were consuming 600 calories a day while working out, not losing weight.
Principally, it’s first and foremost a hormonal issue. Cortisol and estrogen literally cause weight gain.
I know that in my keto carnivore days, I’d fast and calorie restrict for so long, with no success. It seemed to plateau at the same point at which I was getting severe hypo symptoms… no wonder… I can directly refute @RawGoatMilk88 on that one. It was not for lack of trying and diligence that that failed…
I’ve gotten my pulse and temps up pretty consistently now, and now I can at least lose weight on days I sleep more than 8 hours. I do understand the principles of CICO (and play around with low fat/calorie counting), but I still consistently do better when I increase my icecream intake before bed, and restrict my protein intake, and up my gelatin intake. So far my weight loss has happened in bouts of feeling good on tasty food until full, but no mechanical CICO consistency has done the same for me.
The goal is to get your core temps and pulse up consistently high, and then do short term CICO.
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RE: Calorie deficit but gaining fat?
@revenant you're holding your own great! Don’t listen to the gym bros, idk why they’re even here — this is a place for nuance not biolayne nonsense we already know. Hur dur Yea No kidding, out of 5 million people the average will lose weight on CICO.
The outliers don’t find results in popular solutions and fall thru the cracks until they start finding answers from Ray Peat after going around every mountain of mainstream and alternative solutions...
It’s always cool that someone hasn’t suffered from chronically low temps and pulse for 10 years, but they typically don’t understand the severity of attempting CICO in the hypo-metabolic state.
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RE: I suspect at least 50% of you would be better off if you just followed this diet:
@mikeyd it may look neurotic to a healthier person (not pronounced “healthy-yay” no matter how well off you may be), but I’ve been in such a gut and serotonin compromised state, that I could only consume sugar and saturated fat (consequently lowish fat)
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RE: I suspect at least 50% of you would be better off if you just followed this diet:
Brotha I grew up on the healthiest fanciest grains you could imagine. I also consumed a lot of high quality vegetables. I’m here because that didn’t work.
One thing you can’t reconcile with this, is that the continental breakfast all our grandparents ate for breakfast lunch and dinner had triple the calories/sat fat, and no veggies, and they all did better than the are doing…
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RE: Vitamin A and D deficiency increases liver cancer
Not muh heckin poison A!!!
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RE: I joined an 'active club' white nationalist group in Canada
@rayshit sat in seed oil this morning and all the girls laughed
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RE: What does ray peat say about sweet tea?
Ray said about tea: “The addition of lemon or milk to tea reduces the reactivity of the tannins. In recent years, the tea industry has very commonly been adulterating the product. Pu erh is one that still seems to be o.k.”
Ray said in other quotes that the tannins (a type of plant toxin) and antioxidants in tea and Yerba mate can suppress digestion. Sounds like adding lemon/milk would mitigate that. The other thing with Yerba mate is to make sure you only drink un-smoked varieties to avoid carcinogens.
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RE: I joined an 'active club' white nationalist group in Canada
The jokes write themselves lmao
it would be Kramer joining the club right?
Exactly
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RE: I joined an 'active club' white nationalist group in Canada
And I pray you share this audio article with them:
https://youtu.be/gGHzsYyrOys?si=JDE0QZF2KRq2RFJs -
RE: I joined an 'active club' white nationalist group in Canada
This would be a beautiful Seinfeld episode.
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RE: American presidential election 2024
@ThinPicking said in American presidential election 2024:
Therefore.
Any policy that's genuinely disruptive to the order of establishment will come from very small, seemingly benign but spookily viral conversation. Among friends, family and colleagues. On the ground.
The more fundamental and unarguable the better. For if there's argument, that person will keep arguing with themselves when they're alone. And the rest will be history.
Agreed. My current take is to be anti-political. In reality, someone’s policy opinions don’t matter, and are often reflective of their status or location in life.
Universal truths most can get on board with and not know it: Localized communities, eg., farms, families, churches, with good work/life balance. These are well protected against any globohomo argument, and get right to the feels while delivering concrete returns that feed back into the feelings of people. This is a resilience that will change the culture war landscape, and with it, political priorities of the public. In one way, the felt pressure from the lack of these things alone, already is popularizing a few paleo-conservative talking points like limiting immigration and steeper international trade protections like protectionist tariffs.
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RE: American presidential election 2024
@DavidPS Do you think any president, be they Bush, Obama, or Trump, get the keys to the Kingdom when they become president?
Have you heard about the long list of Trump appointees facing an eternity of lawfare for trying to implement Trump's requests in the system when they were in his administration?
You either do what they want and take PR photo shoots at elementary schools and aircraft carriers, or, you get cancelled and possibly assassinated (JFK).
Internet Conspiracy Theorist's Conundrum:
"If the president lives he's a plant, if he dies he's a populist hero..."
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RE: Castor Oil as solvent
Mike Fave (Brother of the Fraternal bioenergeos) did a well researched interview where he basically roasted it, yet went in with an open mind in his research.
https://rss.com/podcasts/health-and-harmony/1482022/
For what it's worth, when I tried it for hair loss, both topically and internally, I most likely screwed up my liver -- and taking spoonful's of coconut oil would not do the same.
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RE: Does anybody know of a Safe Gel? A Peaty Gel?
@Snow I’m not opposed, I’ll look into it. My concern with oil or wax based is not that it won’t absorb necessarily (possibly a problem with wax), but more so that it won’t maintain moistness adequately… idk feeling things out here