i think they are serotonergic. cooking them seems to reduce this. Fresh salsas upset my digestion, cooked or can salsas do not.

@brad Thanks Brad, great website

@BroJonas Ok thank you this is making sense to me, I'll see if I notice this in practice

"Not all fruits, of course, are perfectly safe--avocados, for example, contain so much unsaturated fat that they can be carcinogenic and hepatotoxic." https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/vegetables.shtml

[image: 1708531685269-screenshot-2024-02-21-at-17-07-40-skim-milk-powder-pancakes.png] Gonna try this for sure. mayb w choclet and ginger

@Peatriot The water is to remove the bitters in the orange that otherwise ruin the taste of orange marmalade, not for consistency. Oranges become bitter when heated. You should probably remove the water in the last stretch, though this should happen automatically as the orange-sugar mixture reaches temperatures greater than >100°C.

@thyroidchor27 modified anything No, seeds No, soy - No, canola oil - Hell No! Make your own or look for just flour, starter culture and water in the ingredients.

@Inzil there is a wide variety. as general as saying white sugar is bad so avoid it. some would say honey is better because it is not processed. some would say all kinds of sugar is bad and so go carnivore or ketogenic. but some would a little sugar/carbs is okay but not much. some would say go on intermittent fasting. what they won't tell you is to test you correctly for problems in blood sugar regulation so as to know whether there is something in you that needs to be fixed as far the ability to optimally metabolize sugar goes. some would do a test and give you a false negative ( that you don't have a blood sugar regulation problem when you actually do) and this would reinforce your thinking that carbs are really bad and that yo should avoid it at all cost. a lot of hoops to go through as I said. and you are none the better for it. believe it or not, I benefited from doing my research reading old books I borrowed in the public library and found the answers. this was pre-1994 which meant Netscape wasn't yet around to have the internet to mislead me thoroughly. Nowadays if I started my research off the internet, I wouldn't know to sort out fact from fiction. Lots of gaslighting going on to add to add to the level of confusion in media. Social media is no help either as it adds more noise and distracts me from focus.

@JulofEnoch Appreciate this post a lot, suffering from some overgrowth related problems, will likely just stick with normal milk until I fix my gut.

I use them to make sauces.

Substitute some of the milk powder and sugar for condensed milk. Massive difference, makes the pancakes less dry, more chewy. Too much condensed milk & it becomes hard to cook tho.

@idealabsrat looks good. Insane potassium to sodium ratio, more Travisy than Peaty

@Faustus Excellent post. I will try this out!