@CrumblingCookie Oh yeah, youre right. Thanks for pointing that out. I still find it interesting. Antrodia camphorata The fungus I mentioned, is available as a supplement .

@ChroncStresChris if you're aromatizing at a high rate, TRT will make it worse

@ZackVegas you got me, i didn't think of that

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Useful info (In French) for general purpose. Translator needed: Métabolisme sous-performant (énergie). Décryptage. Comment réagir? Incapacité cellulaire à utiliser l'énergie https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t2222-metabolisme-sous-performant-decryptage-comment-reagir#30950 Translation: Underperforming metabolism (energy). An analysis. How to respond? Cellular inability to use energy.

@BearWithMe, do you think your protein and/or glucose metabolism may be poor and if so, could your thyroid need some support—I see your pulse is a little low? I ask because in my late 20s I too was unable to gain weight, while averaging well over 3,000 calories a day and I’m tiny. I’m normally 45 kg, but my weight plummeted—I was 30 kg at my lowest—and I had to stop mountain climbing due to my spine collapsing and having to learn how to walk again. Thankfully, I got a new doctor who put me on an ancestral diet that pretty much saved my life. I averaged 4 liters of raw milk, some cheese, eggs and meat (mainly scallops) daily and within 2 or so months I had regained 7 kg of mostly muscle (shown via a DEXA scan), but it wasn’t until I convinced my doctor years later to prescribe me standardized NDT (WP Thyroid) that I no longer needed crazy amounts of protein to not only maintain the weight I gained, but gain back the remaining weight I hadn’t, and I’m now able to maintain the 45 kg on 2,500 calories on sedentary days and roughly 4,000 on days I mountain climb. Some quotes from Ray that may be of interest: Thyroid Gland Recovery and Function Post Supplementation "Contrary to popular ideas about thyroid, the gland will resume its functioning after stopping the use of a supplement even if it has been suppressed, and sometimes taking thyroid will increase the glands function to normal. Taking thyroid will sometimes help thin people gain weight, by improving protein metabolism, and it often helps people to sleep more soundly." Ray Peat https://raypeatexplained.com/ray-peat-on-metabolism/ "In my teens and twenties, I needed about 8000 calories per day when I was physically active, about 4000 to 5000 when I was sedentary, but after I took thyroid, I needed only about half as many calories. Thyroid is the basic regulator of blood glucose, and it causes it to be fully oxidized for energy, so that it produces ATP efficiently, on relatively few calories. If blood glucose falls, because it's being used very quickly, the body responds with stress hormones, including glucagon, adrenalin, and cortisol." Ray Peat

@user1 To some degree, yes. The Orsense device measures hemoglobin via light sensors. When I have donated blood over the past 2 years, they have used this device to measure hemoglobin- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkeD7ybugHk I don't know if you could tell much difference with the naked eye. Plus, if you see blood outside the body, it's going to be reacting with oxygen and clotting, both things that would make it darker and thicker. Also, while people with higher iron levels tend to have higher hemoglobin, it's a very rough guideline. People with certain types of anemias can even have high iron levels. And for most people, you can raise hemoglobin levels with a B complex. During de-ironing, I actually got hemoglobin to go up while ferritin was going down by using a B Complex and/or an iron free multivitamin with the same B Vitamins.

Good question. Terrain makes more sense. only a strong healthy man can survive in a sea of germs, and a weak sick man will likely soon perish no matter how many germs he picks off.

@Hearthfire said: I think you get more silica/extract overall with ... What about the size of the silicon molecule to reach the cell, as if any " bio extract" from water, vegetable or bread could reach the target / the cell, at the same level !? No matter the state of your metabolism (> 55 yrs)

@sunsunsun said: apparently detection of viruses in ill people isnt really proof that this is causing the illness This is obviously true. You can observe all sorts of things on a sick person that probably have no effect on them being sick, like dandruff. Many sick people have dandruff, but is dandruff the cause of the illness? Even just sticking with microbes, it's obviously true. Both sick and healthy people have a gut biome, which is made up of several strains of bacteria, numbering into the trillions of individual cells. In any so called "viral" disease, the presence of trillions of bacteria in the gut are overlooked as a factor. Truthfully, even other "viruses" are neglected to be tested. As an example, when people were tested for the "Novel Corona Virus," they neglected to test for all the previous "Corona Viruses," as well as other "common cold and flu viruses." If you ran tests for 20 different "viruses" that are thought to cause cold and flu symptoms (and therefore, "Covid Symptoms" because there is a 100% overlap), and 7 came back positive, how could you claim that any single "virus" was responsible for the symptoms? It's actually worse than that, because EVERY "virus detection" test is actually a surrogate test. There is no way to directly test for ANY virus, not for the general public or in scientific studies. If there is no way to directly detect any virus, then how can you possibly create a remotely accurate surrogate test? Simply stated, there isn't, and in the case of Covid, the hundreds of millions of "asymptomatic patients" prove that. some people say covid isnt real, there's that tanksnowgood guy on rpf who constantly goes on about how there no such thing. when I got wuflu (I assume thats what it was) I got obscenely ill for 2 weeks and also experienced the weird sewage smell stuff and various other similar weird symptoms a lot of people describe. The claim that "covid isn't real" is really a claim that the alleged "Novel Corona Virus," aka SARS-Cov2 doesn't exist. Obviously, the symptoms people got when they got so called Covid are real. Things like coughing and fever can be easily observed in the real world. But the symptoms don't prove the cause. If you read the "Covid Isolation Reports," you can see that in truth, they never "isolated" anything. They took a sample from a sick person, along with all the potential other microbes, added to it a mixture of monkey kidney cells (aka, Vero cells), some antibiotics, some digestive enzymes like trypsin, Fetal Bovine serum, and cultured it in a medium that didn't provide adequate nutrients for cell survival. Then, when the cells showed signs of dying or breaking apart, they claimed that it was the result of an alleged "virus," and dismissed concepts like cell starvation, or the cell being poisoned by the antibiotics, or being ripped apart from the digestive enzymes. Since these "isolation tests" are the ONLY proof of a virus, the conclusion a lot of people have drawn is that SARS-Cov2 (and likely all other viruses) don't actually exist.

@engineer said: Therefore, what I'm wondering about is a strategy to ease the switch from FAO to glucose oxidation. Hi, your analyze if fine but it won't do the job whenever you stress. I can develop if needed (adrenalin => cortisol => no glycolysis allowed). Of, course your body must be accustomed to lipolysis and ketosis. It takes time (progressively improved). If you don't manage this staple very well, your brain is going to slow carburation down. When going out of a real fast (3-4 days), the return must be very progressive with carbs. It seems you've got problems too to manage insulin spike, if I decode well. It won't function well if ....

Ray was asked the difference in effect between using T and using DHT: https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/ray-peat-email-advice-depository.1035/post-669099 Q: What is the major difference in impact between testosterone and dht? Assuming all the foundational stuff is sorted first (-thyroid good, calcium intake, etc.) Peat: Stress and inflammation increase the risk that testosterone will turn to estrogen.

@jamezb46 thanks @jamezb46 @sunsunsun @lobotomize @bio3nergetic

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bgpharmadrugs?

@Ismail I'm interested in this too but for bromocriptine. It seems nearly the same as cabergoline but without the heart valve issues and bhpharmadrugs doesn't ship to the US.

@jd_au said: Keep it simple folks. Still fine for you. However, when taking HD B1, there is a protocol to follow. In short, there is interaction between several vitamins and trace elements. I then asked AI to help clarify the why and the how for other readers. AI says, as if LucH were speaking to JD: Glad it has lasted for you, JD! That is fantastic personal success, and it actually makes perfect sense given the specific combination you used. When you take thyroid hormone alongside thiamine, you are directly addressing the systemic metabolic bottleneck. In the bioenergetic framework Dr. Ray Peat talked about, low thyroid impairs the liver's ability to clear excess estrogen. High estrogen triggers nitric oxide, which over-relaxes (smoothes out) the blood vessels in the lower extremities, causing blood to pool and forcing the heart to beat faster to compensate (POTS). By taking thyroid and thiamine together, you restored cellular energy and vascular tone simultaneously, which is why your results have been so stable. However, for other readers looking to replicate this, it is crucial to understand why standalone High-Dose Thiamine (HD B1) protocols usually require cofactors. Skipping them can cause issues for the average person due to several factors: Magnesium is Mandatory: Thiamine cannot be converted into its active, usable form (thiamine pyrophosphate) without magnesium. Mega-dosing B1 alone rapidly depletes magnesium stores. This frequently triggers severe muscle cramps, anxiety, and heart palpitations, which people often mistake for a worsening of their POTS. The "Paradoxical Reaction": High doses of B1 can kickstart dormant mitochondrial pathways so suddenly that it causes a temporary, severe flare-up of autonomic symptoms. Adequate magnesium, potassium, and baseline nutrition help buffer this transition and prevent a metabolic shock. B-Complex Imbalance: Flooding the system with massive doses of a single B vitamin can eventually create a functional deficiency in other B vitamins (like B2 and B3) that share the same cellular energy pathways. In short, JD's success is a great example of the bioenergetic approach working perfectly because the underlying thyroid and estrogen pieces were addressed. But for most people starting a high-dose thiamine protocol on its own, skipping cofactors like magnesium is a frequent cause of metabolic stalls or severe symptom regressions. Keep it simple, but keep the underlying biochemistry in mind!

@jd_au said: I learned a tremendous amount from that forum. Amazing place really. He didn't have to run it as was or is to maintain the business, in fact it's probably detrimental to that. I have a bulging folder of screenshots that I've referred to many times over the years. Maybe there's a highlights with humour thread in there. flip flopped @bot-mod said: [image: 1729690076468-97noxc.jpg] Footwear tbd.