@Corngold said in Clearing up the Confusion about Oxalate Lists:
@yerrag
I don't know, yerrag. He did hours of shows with Roddy & Dinkov, where they got in the weeds in terms of politics, finance, conspiracy, and other "fear-mongering" for lack of a batter term.
All I'm saying is I remember this stuff, "Forks Over Knives," Michael Pollan, and the big food/health complex existing for years before like 2020.
I believe he did mention it a few times, or commented on it or similar Chinese studies.
https://bioenergetic.life/?q=china+study
Anyways, it's just strange to me, given that I would expect him to want to defend meat and dairy, generally, and possibly find where the study went wrong in their assumptions (if it did!). I wonder if soy feed is the culprit as far as how pork and cows are being fed. The overconsumption of protein cuts and dairy could in fact be bad. But, the study was in 1983.
I wonder if the areas in question were electrified yet following Firstenberg's observations of electricity and cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc. But, once again, I sense that pufa oil and soy feed, rural diets, and electricity are all acting in concert around the time of the study.
This paper seems to have some info on rural electrification of China.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7134604/
I don't expect Peat to dip his toes into every nook and cranny. Just too many bugs and vermins to be dealing with. Best to narrow one's scope, and that's what Peat has done. You can't be Atlas and carry all the world in your shoulder. Still, even by narrowing his scope, his message easily gets watered down.
He hates behind defined and pigeonholed by the term Ray Peat Diet because that has the connotations of a one size fit all approach, and he loathes such an approach because context is key.
I think he isn't one to want his brand diluted by being just like the others who lack his coherence in messaging.