@LucH how do I sense that the liver is overburdened?

Main problem with coconut oil is that I don't wanna eat it on its own. I was pondering making mashed potato to go with it, but I'm trying to exclude starch for the first streak without it in my life aside from fasting.

@Sippy Did you ever try more than 2 grams of thiamine hcl? I tried 2.5 grams one day and got some shooting electrical zapping pains in my thighs. I interpreted that response to mean I had taken too much so I backed it down to the 2 grams/day.

How long did you take the 2 grams of thiamine hcl?

@nicgabhann sure thing!

Was sick

Found an article on an obscure website: Raypeat dot com
Didn’t understand it…

Read his book Nutrition for Women
Didn’t understand it….

Got sicker and sicker

Started to understand!

Experimented with his ideas
Saw truth
Never have looked back

@mikeyd post worded 10/10

You shouldn't be trying to blunt hunger. According to Broda Barnes, a loss of appetite was the one of the first signs that something has gone wrong for a person. Anything that inhibits those signals to eat are Anti-peat and probably going to wreck metabolism in the long term

@mikeyd How do babies survive with 0g of fiber for 2 years+?

rice potatotes cocoa /coffee mix throughout the day w sugar oats w almonds raisins and honey cereal w milk and gelatin cottagee cheese fried w broccoli and mushrooms, different vegetables every day and a few eggs here and there

@Ilias-Ant said in Glucose metabolism - Free Fatty Acids:

actually now i m in low fat high carb diet.... but the most important thing for me is low energy.... that's why i m trying to lift weights etc for workout... i also grounding and I'm out in the sun (shade) for about 2.5-3 hours per day...
Sun helps a lot i can feel the difference...

Fine.
As long you consume minimum 20 % fat and optimal protein ratio to weight, it's OK.
For fats:
45 % SFA (coconut, butter, meat preferable free range)
45 % MUFA: e.g. avocado, olive oil (only for veggies), free range poultry, duck, etc.
10 % PUFA, but no need to target 10 gr every day. I target 1.5 w3 et 6 gr w6. original, not processed.
See Kate Deering for useful info on energy metabolism.

Also, I wanted to thank everyone for sharing different experiences, resources, exercises and insights to improve this issue!

@Amethyst said in What Did Dr. Pete Say The K-2 To Calcium Ratio Was?:

So how much to take if I am taking in at least 1,200 mgs. of calcium?

How much vitamin K?
I’ve had a discussion on RPF about the dosage of vitamin K2. How much is too much?
Details are given beneath (last part).
I won’t recommend taking more than 2 mg / day, given the fact that the menaquinones (K2 family) are broken down into menadiones, which can be "toxic" If repeated.
http://ajplung.physiology.org/content/ajplung/262/5/L637.full.pdf

Here are the main points
Haidut said:
“Does it mean that more than 2mg K2 at a time will lead to toxic levels of K3?”
LucH answered:
Well, we don't know exactly. This is a supposed by-side effect. I explain.
Conversion of excess menaquinones in menadiones
We know menadione is a metabolite of oral vitamin K supplement.
Phylloquinone (K1) is converted into menaquinone-4 and accumulates in extrahepatic tissues. Neither the route nor the function of the conversion is totally known. One supposed metabolic route is the conversion of 5 – 25 % of menadione from phylloquinone by catabolic activity. 10 – 15 % is most likely converted. But this is aleatory (due to intestinal absorption) and not equally distributed. We can only measure the presence of menadione in urine and make deductions when excreted. (1)
When taking excess menadiones, through conversion / excretion it would be quite advisable to take some NAC to get enough selenium to neutralize ROS. Adaptive response. (2) Menadione generates ROS through redox cycling, and high concentrations trigger cell death. If lack of glutathione. (3 – 4)
Edit: No NAC if supplementing B3 vitamin.
Correction form Haidut:
Haidut said:
I think selenium is a much safer option then NAC. The cysteine has a lot of bad effects on the organism.
LucH answers:
=> Yes, cysteine could depress thyroid function in case of insufficient iodine.
Conversation following, by LuH:

Menadione in excess clearly affects the mitochondrial function. (5)

However there is no reported health risk when taking K2. Excess K2 is excreted through urine and feces (through bile). No direct adverse effect doesn’t mean there is no impact on energy level. This is a personal comment. It depends on the way the body neutralizes an excess oral supplement.
Mind excess alpha-tocopherols too (vitamin E) because it may interfere with synthesis of K2. (6- 7) Also if you take phytonutrients as AINS (curcumine or aspirin) because it affects cytochrome P450 (detox pathway). You need a recovery period between 2 cures.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7305589_Menadione_is_a_metabolite_of_oral_vitamin_K http://www.jbc.org/content/281/52/40485.full.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3005834/
Oxidative Stress-Induced Apoptosis by Menadione at high concentration. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20937380 + http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1521661601951290 http://jcs.biologists.org/content/106/1/309 http://health.oregonstate.edu/biblio/vitamin-e-decreases-extra-hepatic-menaquinone-4-concentrations-rats-fed-menadione-or http://www.pubpdf.com/pub/22707266/Vitamin-E-decreases-extra-hepatic-menaquinone-4-concentrations-in-rats-fed-menadione-or-phylloquinon
α-Toco may interfere with the side chain removal of phylloquinone (PK) to form menadione (MN) as an intermediate for synthesis of tissue-specific menaquinone-4 (MK-4).

Paymanz said:
“you didnt meant to say alpha tocopherol inhibit its conversion ,right?”
LucH answers:
=> Tocopherols neutralize oxidant molecules. If excess menaquinone leaves quinones, if menadione generates ROS, yes, alpha tocopherols would serve as firemen. Thus tocopherols could inhibit K2 when taken at the same time. Only a supposition but it’s logical.

More info to optimize Ca and phosphorus (between 2.2/1)
Bone metabolism and joints: Dependent on vitamin K2
To absorb Ca (via osteoblasts), the body is dependent on vitamin K2. The synthesis of osteocalcin depends on vitamin K2. If we schematize: osteocalcin allows the body to use calcium for bone metabolism. In the absence of vitamin K, osteocalcin cannot function. Vitamin K2 is necessary to carboxylate/activate K2-dependent proteins so that they perform their functions. For example, the matrix Gla protein (MGP protein or osteocalcin), it prevents calcium from being deposited on blood vessels and other soft tissues. The more vitamin K2 you lack, the less MGP will be activated, so calcium will lodge in the arteries, creating stasis and then blockage... NB: the matrix Gla protein is not specific to bone: it is also found in the wall of vessels where it plays a role in inhibiting vascular calcification.

See animation on this link (bone remodelling):
http://www.random42.com/bone-biology-osteoblasts-and-osteoclasts-animation
Info on absorption, target and dosage of vitamin K (and links from Chris Masterjohn and Kate Rheaume-blue) (in French, with English links)
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1704-vit-k-mk4-vs-mk7-update-02-2020#21497

Momado965 said:
Do you think a dose of 45mg of mk4 spread throughout is toxic?
Luch answered:
Toxic, no.
K1= 45 mcg.
Enough to improve the level of artery calcification and cardiac mortality. It depends on the interaction between A D K vitamins.
K2 type MK4: 45 mg (45.000 mcg).
Recommended to decarboxylate the Osteocalcin level.
K2 type MK7: 240 mcg for diabetics and obese people. Level recommended in the prevention of atherosclerosis, diabetes, osteoporosis, obesity, etc.
From « Dosage optimum » on this link (in French):
http://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t706-vitamine-k2-achat-exemples-de-produits#6433

@himblondemaxxing said in When peating fails:

Feel like I am getting worse and more hypothyroid which is discouraging... can anyone else relate?

Hi,
I’d have a look at these points to deal with anti-energy problem (part of the whole point)

Estrogen imbalance Thyroid saturation by heavy metals See Kate Deering too to optimize the metabolism.
Note: It’s not because RP said sth was good in general that you don’t have to manage according to your ground and the level of you energy (the way you metabolize).

Useful info:
*) The link between thyroid, energy and excess estrogen.
Statistics show that one in eight women between the ages of 35 and 65 and one in five women over the age of 65 have some form of thyroid disease. If T3 is impaired, the neurotransmitter will fail to transmit the right impulse to regulate the action of serotonin, norepinephrine, and GABA (gamma aminobutyric acid). If you don’t have enough T3, or if its action is blocked, an entire cascade of neurotransmitter abnormalities may ensue and can lead to mood and energy changes, including depression.
Source: Effects of estrogen on thyroid function
http://www.drnorthrup.com/thyroid-disease/

*) Iodine deficiency is also very common in women.
See Thyroid Toxicity, By Philip L. Roberts, MD

What intoxicates the thyroid?
-- Watch out fluorine and bromine: they saturate the receptors of the thyroid and prevent iodine from fixing / to reach the target. Useful nutrients for the thyroid.
Les vitamines liposolubles : A, D, E, K.
Les vitamines C B-2 B9 et B12
Les oligo-éléments : Magnésium – Sélénium – Zinc – Iode
More info in the book « Stop the thyroid madness II, chapter 10.
How Thyroid Experts are Challenging Ineffective Treatments and Improving the Lives of Patients
JANIE A. BOWTHORPE, M.ED. EDITOR.
Or a summary of the book on my forum:
http://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t119-the-thyroid-madness#817

*) Brain protection from aluminum, cadmium, lead, mercury and nickel.
Magnesium protects the brain from the onslaught of toxic minerals like aluminum, cadmium, lead, mercury and nickel. Low levels of brain magnesium allow the toxic metals to enter brain cells, and could be the harbinger of conditions like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s
We recommend combining ionized magnesium with choline citrate to enhance magnesium uptake and chaperone its delivery to cells.
Regular magnesium is often not absorbed efficiently, especially in people with compromised digestion and chronic conditions; these are the people who most need the support that magnesium provides. The cellular uptake of magnesium entails an energy-dependent step that is bypassed by the addition of choline.
Source: Three Safe & Simple Ways to Detox
Note: If you suffer from mercury toxicity, any recovery can’t take place. There is a strict protocol to follow. And mind current mistakes: too long with the same product. No recovery stage allowed for energy. Get informed on the health crisis before detoxifying.

Useful info:

Book: How to heal your metabolism.
http://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1347-comment-guerir-votre-metabolisme-livre
=> Large excerpts on my forum (in French). Top 3 of the read posts. Mind ratio Hg/ Se in fish and seafood. Selenium (Se) must be higher than mercury (Hg)
Ratio Hg / Se mg / 100 gr fish
Espadon 0,89 / 0,062 mg / 100 gr de poisson (swordfish)
Maquereau espagnol 0,44 / 0,36 (Spanish mackerel)
Saumon d'élevage atlantique 0,06 / 0,041
Saumon sockeye d'Alaska 0.03 / 0,030

@DavidPS it also solves heart disease in the Linus Pauling protocol

it's an interesting substance