@the-MOUSE you dont really need hair once your his age and already have wife/kids. and being built like that is peaty. also 1.5 liters chocolate ice cream/day diet cures hairloss but you need to supp bicarb, sunbathe, and do nofap for it to take effect.

@Nomanarch A large amount of peaters I meet online either here or on the RPF are from Canada including me. It's interesting because I would think for our size it would be much rarer to see a Canadians on here. To answer your question though all the substances you use are good and peaty but it can be excessive if your taking them everyday. t3 and t4 are easily acquired via meds.com.mx. I had no problems getting mine through customs.

Besides that ensuring you have adequate carb intake, salt to taste, eating gelatinous foods.

Some other supplements you can think about trying in the future are Progest e, Pregnenolone, and Cyproheptadine.

@Jennifer said in Protein synthesis / net carbs:

“*Protein: (about 15-20% calories) .6-.8g/lb. Protein should be on the higher end if you are active, or you are older. Protein sources should be from ruminant meat (beef, bison, lamb, goat), specific seafood (shrimp, scallops, cod, sole, oysters, mussels, clams), pasture raised eggs, very lean 99% chicken/ turkey/ fowl (These are very lean because they are high in polyunsaturated fats if not).”

I am older and active to I try to get 1g/lb. Like I mentioned in an earlier post when I dropped the protein intake below that my recovery suffered but that was with lower carbs so now that I am increasing them I will adjust and see how it works. I only track animal based protein in crono and disregard the plant based.

@Jennifer said in Protein synthesis / net carbs:

Since you developed allergies and digestive issues following a keto(ish) elimination diet and feel better since upping your carbs, I wonder if your thyroid was affected. Have you tracked your temps and pulse rate first thing in the morning and 20–30 minutes after eating? Too much protein relative to your needs and not enough carbs can lower thyroid function, and poor thyroid function is a common cause of allergies.

I never had any thyroid problems until I did the lower carb diet. I did lab work while I was on that diet and my free T3 crashed but as soon as I increased the carbs it came right back to upper levels and that was just around 120 carbs. Definitely affected my thyroid. Unfortunately I had food allergies before starting that diet. I have had to avoid shell fish for quite some time now. But the EoE and possibly related to dairy/eggs could be the supps she has me on or my gut is now so messed up that will be need to be corrected. Would be nice if it was one of the supplements. Good thing is I am rotating off of some of the supps she has had me on for a year now and that is in the time frame EoE appeared.

Something I will need to watch, thanks.

@the-MOUSE That does seem to be what a couple of people that did hardcore Peating are saying. I can't say whether it is or not as the only time I was supplementing with lots of omega-3 was when I was also on a shit diet and the omega-3 didn't seem to help the shit diet.

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@PrinceTrebata This morning I was 97.1 with 60 pulse. I tend to wake up a bit puffy, feet kinda swole feeling, face lacking color like not much circulation, bit stuffy nosed.

I was 99.2 the evening before this. After eating and little walk I get my metabolism and temps back up to a good level and feel good. I’ve been over the adrenaline hump since ramping up to this dose over the past few months taking it slow this time.

I’ve never done any blood tests but I take vitamin D daily

I couldn't do average grocery store orange juice from unripe oranges. I don't tolerate oranges well in general. No problem with sugar and milk though.

The ideal Ray Peat diet is cherimoyas and gelatin, lobster and Italian cheese as he said in the back of a tiger interview. Milk and orange juice are least bad while economical. Orange juice instead of whole oranges cause Ray had an allergy to orange fiber.

@irs I don't know how effective TUDCA really is. I know low ratio of t4/t3 around 1/1 2/1 is good for the liver and would help your hypothyroidism. Coffee is generally recommend by peat as well. Fatty liver is a pretty serious issue and while TUDCA may help I don't think it will solve it.

@Cezar4911 its often showing hypoxia or leaky vessels (low oxygen tissue, skin around the eyes is thin so shows it clearly). u can see this at peoples finger tips / toes / tip of nose / lips in people with poor circulation, Cyanosis https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Cynosis.JPG/1024px-Cynosis.JPG , milder version of this

common sign of hypothyroidism (can be iron deficiency, sleep apnea, poor lung heart function etc stuff that effects bloodflow rbc bodyheat). ray said he noticed this going away when people fixed hypothyroidism

@LucH thank you for that. I have also been taking low dose b- complex, but it prob doesn't have enough b2. I find supplementing the b vitamins to be so complex, with so many pitfalls. You need x to make y work, but if you take too much x, it will deplete z etc etc. It's an endless minefield.

I'm going to just work on thyroid and diet, and try and get enough b vitamins from milk and liver. Even if I don't fix all my issues, I should still make real progress.

@Cezar4911

I can buy beef tendons that have been well processed such that it is all white and transparent. It steams well into a clear gelatin that can also be used as jello. Costs me $7/kg wet and assuming 75% moisture, translates to $28/kg dry. I consume this in 2 months.

Beef tendons are best IMHO because it is free from any endotoxins.

Buying gelatin is fraught with uncertainty as to sourcing, as you have to trust the word of the processor/manufacturer. And you can trust no one you don't know.

@Cezar4911, I usually put roughly 2 tablespoons of butter per kilo of potatoes.

In Sweden, I don't think you'll find a bovine variation of an Armour alternative at all, unfortunately. Bovine thyroid glandular supplement is probably obtainable there but the quality is dubious and you have no idea what ratio of t4:t3 you'd be getting.

Might be worth pinning more of your thoughts on diet and lifestyle/environment rather than spending a lot of money on rare imported thyroid drugs.

@mavuue If your cortisol is elevated (probably is) it would be helpful to lower it too (together with estrogen).
https://testonation.com/2019/06/09/43-ways-to-lower-cortisol-that-work/

In general, the best approach is to focus on improving your overall health, especially metabolism with thyroid optimization (as others already mentioned).
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Stay away from reductionistic desperate steps like partially estrogenic Clomid or inconvenient HCG...